Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)

[Ben Cannon <ben () 6by7 net>]

Mike have you looked at Packetlight?   Long-haul is mostly jumping to 100 or even 400g coherent. 

-Ben

> On Dec 15, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
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> FS had one, but it's not on their site anymore.
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> From: "Luke Guillory" <lguillory () reservetele com>
> To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>
> Cc: "Eric Dugas" <edugas () unknowndevice ca>, "nanog" <nanog () nanog org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 10:52:19 AM
> Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
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> No cost affective 10x10G to 100G muxponder?
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> On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:46 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
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> heh, cross connects are indeed a major issue. I have a need for > 10G transport. My equipment supports 40G. The 
> carriers aren't terribly interested in doing 40G transport (at least not at a reasonable price, one quote was over 4x 
> a 10G). 100G-capable switches cost too much. Equinix charges as much for a pair of cross connects as a 10G wave. 
> Carriers aren't likely to be interested in using bidi optics or passive WDM to overcome the ridiculous cross connect 
> charges.
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> This all complicates how one chooses transport. There's no easy path forward.
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> From: "Eric Dugas" <edugas () unknowndevice ca>
> To: "Mehmet Akcin" <mehmet () akcin net>
> Cc: "nanog" <nanog () nanog org>
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 11:42:53 AM
> Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
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> I also look at hand-off locations (as long as it doesn't compromise the overall robustness of the design).
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> Most providers will be able to hand-off in the BMMR of a carrier hotel and some will have the flexibility to hand-off 
> in particular suites within the same building or other locations near where the cross-connects fees are lower. I've 
> seen cross-connect fees between $50 up to $750 MRC so if you need multiple wavelengths (for capacity), the 
> cross-connect fees are going to make a huge difference on the total MRC.
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> On Dec 14 2018, at 12:17 pm, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet () akcin net> wrote:
> Thank you everyone incredible amounts of responses for my how to choose a transit provider smail earlier.
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> How do you choose transport & backbone?
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> Looking at key aspects like route information, diversity, aerial vs under ground fiber, age of fiber, outage history, 
> length, but what else?
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> I will get both transport and transit as two seperate blogs.
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> I will also submit as a nanog paper for the meeting after next, or maybe next? I am probably too late by now.
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> Thank you for all your help. I will add your names to the thank you line ;-)
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