Re: Extending network over a dry pair

[Dan Hollis <goemon () sasami anime net>]

Repeaters are standard for T1s.

I strongly suggest looking at wireless. There is almost guaranteed to be a 
spot you can put a repeater up to bridge you to your gateway.

-Dan

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Nick Bogle wrote:

> The driving distance is 4 miles, we are leasing it from CenturyLink whose
> headend maybe adds a mile or less, it's on the route and about half way
> through. I made it 6 miles to be safe. We currently can pull a full 1.5Mbps
> off of that T1 we run there so perhaps CenturyLink is repeating at their CO
> and/or along the route?
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:32 PM Dan Hollis <goemon () sasami anime net> wrote:
>
> > I doubt he will get >1.5mbps with those over a 6 mile long connection.
> >
> > I did a quick check and flowpoint 2200s seem to max out at 192kbps at 3
> > miles.
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> > On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Tim Pozar wrote:
> >
> > > For dry pairs, I have used Flowpoint SDSL modems (see attached).  I
> > > picked these up for a sawbuck.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > On 12/12/18 5:00 PM, Dan Hollis wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Nick Bogle wrote:
> > > > > A quick question for you guys;
> > > > >
> > > > > If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for
> > phones)
> > > > > to a remote site that was around 6 miles away, what would you use? We
> > > > > currently are just extending a T1 line to this site, but 1.5Mbps isn't
> > > > > cutting it anymore. Unfortunately it's a research site on a federally
> > > > > protected wildlife preserve so we can't run any new infrastructure
> > (fiber
> > > > > etc) and it isn't in a geographical place where point to point
> > > > > wireless is
> > > > > practical. We were thinking there is some sort of network extender that
> > > > > uses some form of DSL for higher bandwidth capacity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > If this is telco provided dry pair then the distance is probably longer
> > > > than 6 miles as the endpoints are probably tied together through a telco
> > > > CO.
> > > >
> > > > I have not heard of any equipment which will work over a 6 mile pair any
> > > > faster than you're getting with T1.
> > > >
> > > > You might consider setting up wireless repeaters to bridge where there
> > > > is no direct LOS. Look at what the hamwan guys have done.
> > > > http://hamwan.org/
> > > >
> > > > -Dan