RE: Please run windows update now

["Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf () dessus com>]

Not to mention of course that the version of Windows 10 that actually has all Microsoft's 
wonder-dunder-touted-all-and-fro security features is the one that most mere  mortals cannot buy.

I wunder.

When there are these wunderful fluffings of the security of Windows 10, should one be suing Microsoft for not 
explicitly stating in the opening sentence that the features touted do not apply to any version of Windows that can be 
purchased at whim (ie, retail) and only applies to the "Enterprise" version which is *only* available with a minimum 
purchase quantity and the selling of the first (and second) born to Microsoft, and at that only after entering into a 
really nasty contract with Microsoft?

Or should one be suing all the "security fools and newsfrothers" that promulgate the story without specifying that the 
emperors "new secure clothing" is only available to "Enterprise" customers with special contracts to Microsoft and 
failing to warn that Microsoft has deliberately left everyone else "naked and unprotected"?

Or should one simply sue them all and let God (or a judge) sort it out?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe [mailto:jbfixurpc () gmail com]
> Sent: Friday, 12 May, 2017 23:08
> To: Keith Medcalf
> Cc: nanog () nanog org
> Subject: Re: Please run windows update now
>
> One word. Linux.
>
> After this we'll probably see (yet more) additional processes running on
> windows boxes safe guarding against issues like this, forcing windoze
> users to upgrade memory/processor/disk space. I, for one, am not looking
> at Windoze 10 S as it locks too many applications needed for work to the
> Windoze store.
>
>
> Getting kind of ridiculous if you ask me.
>
>
> -Joe
>
>
> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf () dessus com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>       Well, this one was patched (or more accurately, undone).  Perhaps.
> Maybe.
>
>       How many other "paid defects" do you estimate there are in Microsoft
> Windows waiting to be exploited when discovered (or disclosed) by someone
> other than the "Security Agency" buying the defect?
>
>       Almost certainly more than just this one ... and almost certainly
> there is more than a single "payor agency" independently purchasing the
> deliberate introduction of code defects.
>
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>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: Nathan Brookfield [mailto:Nathan.Brookfield () simtronic com au
> <mailto:Nathan.Brookfield () simtronic com au> ]
>       > Sent: Friday, 12 May, 2017 22:48
>       > To: Keith Medcalf
>       > Cc: nanog () nanog org
>       > Subject: Re: Please run windows update now
>       >
>       > Well it was patched by Microsoft of March 14th, just clearly
> people
>       > running large amounts of probably Windows XP have been owned.
>       >
>       > Largely in Russia.
>       >
>       > Nathan Brookfield
>       > Chief Executive Officer
>       >
>       > Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>       > http://www.simtronic.com.au
>       >
>       > On 13 May 2017, at 14:47, Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf () dessus com>
> wrote:
>       >
>       >
>       > The SMBv1 issue was disclosed a year or two ago and never patched.
>       > Anyone who was paying attention would already have disabled SMBv1.
>       >
>       > Thus is the danger and utter stupidity of "overloading" the
> function of
>       > service listeners with unassociated road-apples.  Wait until the
> bad guys
>       > figure out that you can access the same "services" via a
> connection to the
>       > DNS port (UDP and TCP 53) on windows machines ...
>       >
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>       >
>       > > -----Original Message-----
>       > > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+kmedcalf <mailto:nanog-
> bounces%2Bkmedcalf> =dessus.com () nanog org] On
>       > Behalf
>       > > Of Karl Auer
>       > > Sent: Friday, 12 May, 2017 18:58
>       > > To: nanog () nanog org
>       > > Subject: Re: Please run windows update now
>       > >
>       > >> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 10:30 -0800, Royce Williams wrote:
>       > >> - In parallel, consider investigating low-hanging fruit by OU
>       > >> (workstations?) to disable SMBv1 entirely.
>       > >
>       > > Kaspersky reckons the exploit applies to SMBv2 as well:
>       > >
>       > > https://securelist.com/blog/incidents/78351/wannacry-ransomware-
> used-in <https://securelist.com/blog/incidents/78351/wannacry-ransomware-
> used-in>
>       > > -widespread-attacks-all-over-the-world/
>       > >
>       > > I thought it was a typo in para 2 and the table, but they
> emailed back
>       > > saying nope, SMBv2 is (was) also broken. However, they also say
> (same
>       > > page) that the MS patch released in March this year fixes it.
>       > >
>       > > Assuming they are right, I wonder why Microsoft didn't mention
> SMBv2?
>       > >
>       > > Regards, K.
>       > >
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