Re: Regulatory Recovery Surcharge for Canadian corporations

[Luke Guillory <lguillory () reservetele com>]

On transit though? We in the US pay all of these types of fees as well though not on service outside of telephone.



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On Mar 14, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Todd Grand <tgrand () tgrand com> wrote:
> These costs are related to federal, provincial and/or municipal mandates,
> programs and requirements such as provincial 9-1-1 fees, spectrum
> acquisition, licensing charges, and contribution charges to help subsidize
> telephone service in rural and remote areas. These costs are not taxes or
> amounts that the government requires carriers to collect. The specific
> amount of these costs can vary as the fees/costs of government
> mandates/programs change.
>
> I would have them outline what regulatory costs they incur, as they have to
> justify the extension of these costs, or in my opinion it is a form of
> fraud.
>
> Todd Grand
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+tgrand=tgrand.com () nanog org] On Behalf Of
> Eric Dugas
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:00 AM
> To: Graham Johnston <johnstong () westmancom com>
> Cc: NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: Regulatory Recovery Surcharge for Canadian corporations
>
> From what I've gathered so far, every other carriers that we use are either
> invoicing us from Canada or outside the US (e.g. Telia from Vancouver, BC
> and Cogent from Toronto, ON).
>
>
>
> A couple of minutes after firing my first email, our rep called me to follow
> up. He'll escalate this as far as he can with his COO and CFO and suggested
> two scenarios.
>
>
> On Mar 14 2017, at 10:41 am, Graham Johnston <johnstong () westmancom com>
> wrote:
>
> > We don't explicitly pay a charge like this for the transit bandwidth
> > we
> purchase in Toronto from an international carrier, and I doubt that it is
> built into the cost without any mention of it. I've never heard of such a
> thing.
>
> >
>
> > Graham Johnston
> Network Planner
> Westman Communications Group
> 204.717.2829
> johnstong () westmancom com
>
> >
>
> > \-----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Eric Dugas
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 9:04 AM
> To: NANOG
> Subject: Regulatory Recovery Surcharge for Canadian corporations
>
> >
>
> > I recently negotiated a new contract with a tier1 for IP transit in
> > Canada
> and
> just got the invoice. I saw a "new" Regulatory Recovery Surcharge of 10% the
> MRC (before taxes) that I've never seen before. Do any of my Canadian
> fellows on this list are paying this outrageous surcharge?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Other than saying "it's in the MSA", our rep, their tax and billing
> department
> are not useful at all. The actual rate is not specified anywhere in the MSA
> or in the contract.