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Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots


From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2017 16:30:54 +1000


In message <1496816542.3628250.1001312328.70DF4DB2 () webmail messagingengine com>
, Scott Christopher writes:
Mark Andrews wrote: 

but we do have the tech to do this.

I wholeheartedly agree.

All it takes is a couple of transit providers to no longer accept word-of-m
outh and
the world will transition overnight.

This is the hard part. 

It seems trivial - being probably only a handful of transit providers -
but then again, these providers have massive infrastructure spread
globally, often ancient legacy systems that still work, and management
has a legal responsibility in most places to maximize the profits of
their shareholders.

Look at the rollout of EMV in the U.S.: the world "has done had that
tech to do that" for decades (in Europe) but it only arrived in the U.S.
two years ago. And the U.S. doesn't do the (more secure) chip-and-pin
like the rest of the world (that costs too much money according to the
banks) but rather chip-and-signature. 

Whereas U.S. banks are (sometimes) liable for fraud on their systems,
transit providers don't have any liability for anything in the U.S. And
they are actively fighting for their right to transit some packets
faster than others - for an additional fee, of course!
 
Actually they do have liability. It just needs someone to sue them
for them to wake up.  The injured party isn't a customer of the
transit provider so there isn't any weasle worded contract to sace
the transit provider.

I think the solution is legislation + regulations.

-- 
Regards,
  S.C.
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: marka () isc org


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