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Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots
From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2017 16:30:54 +1000
In message <1496816542.3628250.1001312328.70DF4DB2 () webmail messagingengine com> , Scott Christopher writes:
Mark Andrews wrote:but we do have the tech to do this.I wholeheartedly agree.All it takes is a couple of transit providers to no longer accept word-of-mouth andthe world will transition overnight.This is the hard part. It seems trivial - being probably only a handful of transit providers - but then again, these providers have massive infrastructure spread globally, often ancient legacy systems that still work, and management has a legal responsibility in most places to maximize the profits of their shareholders. Look at the rollout of EMV in the U.S.: the world "has done had that tech to do that" for decades (in Europe) but it only arrived in the U.S. two years ago. And the U.S. doesn't do the (more secure) chip-and-pin like the rest of the world (that costs too much money according to the banks) but rather chip-and-signature. Whereas U.S. banks are (sometimes) liable for fraud on their systems, transit providers don't have any liability for anything in the U.S. And they are actively fighting for their right to transit some packets faster than others - for an additional fee, of course!
Actually they do have liability. It just needs someone to sue them for them to wake up. The injured party isn't a customer of the transit provider so there isn't any weasle worded contract to sace the transit provider.
I think the solution is legislation + regulations. -- Regards, S.C.
-- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka () isc org
Current thread:
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots, (continued)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Hank Nussbacher (Jun 05)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Christopher Morrow (Jun 06)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Scott Christopher (Jun 06)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Mark Andrews (Jun 06)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Christopher Morrow (Jun 06)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Mark Andrews (Jun 06)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Christopher Morrow (Jun 06)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Bryan Fields (Jun 06)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Mark Andrews (Jun 06)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Hank Nussbacher (Jun 05)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Scott Christopher (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Mark Andrews (Jun 06)
- Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots Robert L Mathews (Jun 07)