Re: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders

["Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>]

There is one problem: The article is factually incorrect on multiple points. So comparing A to B when B is a fairy tale 
does not make much sense.

The proposed constitutional changes are in the public domain.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick

P.S. Full disclosure, I am a LINX director. So maybe I’m saying this to protect myself. If only you could read the 
proposed changes and decide for yourself. Oh, wait….


> On Feb 17, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Ken Chase <math () sizone org> wrote:
>
> Just meant it as a parallel operational example. Both situations, while legally
> distinct, present the same operational issues. 
>
> Purposely breaking things - and then being required to keep the breakage secret -
> is going to mess up a whole lot of things. (How does Chinese operators handle this?)
>
> Additionally the snooping is an issue, though I can't imagine anyone depends on
> an IX for maintaining secrecy at a contract level :/ Today's realities.
>
> /kc
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:03:00AM -0600, Mike Hammett said:
> > I'm not sure Cogent is on any IXes? 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- 
> > Mike Hammett 
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> > http://www.ics-il.com 
> >
> > Midwest-IX 
> > http://www.midwest-ix.com 
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Ken Chase" <math () sizone org> 
> > To: nanog () nanog org 
> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 9:56:23 AM 
> > Subject: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders 
> >
> > And when you go to figure out why that IP wont ping through Cogent on 
> > your exchange, and start troubleshooting but can't get any answers 
> > as to why things are bust... 
> >
> > [ Clearly now an operational issue for NANOG. ] 
> >
> > Purposely breaking routing and not being able to talk about why is going to 
> > set many orgs at odds with their basic operational charters. I expect that 
> > a paid service will work when it's provided, including help debugging their end. 
> >
> > This is slightly different from a service provider, ostensibly you can 
> > go elsewhere to get service - but when you are a member of a nonprofit *IX 
> > (as we are with TorIX), things get a lot more complex. 
> >
> > I imagine contract lawyers are going to be all over this. 
> >
> > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/17/linx_snoopers_charger_gagging_order/ 
> >
> > (their typo in the url) 
>
> /kc 
> -- 
> Ken Chase - math () sizone org Guelph/Toronto Canada