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Re: Providing transit to unallocated networks


From: joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 19:57:09 -0700

On 9/27/16 5:46 PM, Alistair Mackenzie wrote:
Thanks for this, it shows as

apnic|ZZ|ipv4|103.***.***.0|1024|20160927|reserved||e-stats

I expect this still stands with it being reserved?

 I'm not sure why you would bother obscuring it. What purpose does that
serve in furthering the discussion?

If it's not

route-views>show ip bgp 103.6.232.0/22
BGP routing table entry for 103.6.232.0/22, version 87113221
Paths: (1 available, best #1, table default)
  Not advertised to any peer
  Refresh Epoch 1
  3277 39710 20632 31133 58073
    195.208.112.161 from 195.208.112.161 (194.85.4.4)
      Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best
      Community: 3277:39710 20632:65441 65535:65000
      rx pathid: 0, tx pathid: 0x0

What is it?



William, it's 100% an apnic range and shows no org and is registered
to the APNIC Hostmaster. This applies for both the ASN and the address
space.


On 28 September 2016 at 01:28, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Alistair Mackenzie <magicsata () gmail com> wrote:
I've come across a network which seem to be getting transit yet both the
ASN and IP space is not allocated by the RIR.
Hi Alistair,

There is still unicast address space that isn't allocated by any RIR?

Seriously though, check all your bases. Is not the space unallocated
by all RIRs or just the one you expect to hold it?  If you have a
transit provider that's not playing by the rules, contact their
transit providers to complain and if you still don't get satisfaction,
I'd name and shame the lot of them. Failure to filter bad actors is
how prefix hijacking happens.

Regards,
Bill Herrin



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William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com  bill () herrin us
Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>


On 28 September 2016 at 01:36, George Michaelson <ggm () algebras org> wrote:

check if the block is in this file.

http://labs.apnic.net/delegated-nro-extended

If not, then the block is hijacked or being abused.

the file format is a bit obscure: the ipv4 record is base-ip|hostcount
but converting that to prefix length is pretty simple.

-G

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Alistair Mackenzie
<magicsata () gmail com> wrote:
Hi,

I've come across a network which seem to be getting transit yet both the
ASN and IP space is not allocated by the RIR. It does appear at some
point
that it was valid however this is no longer the case.

The network is single homed and I tried asking the transit provider what
their policy was on this but got no answer.

Has anyone seen anything like this? What has happened in the past with
things like this?

Thanks,
Alistair



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