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Re: IPv6 automatic reverse DNS


From: Steve Atkins <steve () blighty com>
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 16:28:44 -0700


On Oct 28, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com> wrote:

Hello

Many service providers have IPv4 reverse DNS for all their IP addresses. If nothing is more relevant, this will often 
just be the IPv4 address hashed somehow and tagged to the ISP domain name. For some arcane reason it is important to 
have the forward DNS match the reverse DNS or some mail servers might reject your mails.

However with IPv6 it is not practical to build such a complete reverse DNS zone. You could do a star entry but that 
would fail the reverse/forward match test.

It should be simple to build a DNS server that will automatically generate a hostname value for every reverse lookup 
received, and also be able to parse that hostname value to return the correct IPv6 address on forward lookups.

Does any DNS server have that feature?

It's easy enough to implement with plugins on some servers.

Should we have it?

Meh.

Why not?

Because having an automatically generated reverse DNS is a sign that the IP address is not really intended to be 
offering public services, rather it's a malware-infested end user machine.


I know of some arguments for:

1a) mail servers like it

... because it's a sign that the mail is coming from a real mailserver configured by a competent admin, rather than 
being a random compromised machine. That's not the case if you're just synthesizing reverse DNS for arbitrary IP 
addresses on your network.


1b) anti spam filters believe in the magic of checking forward/reverse match.

For the same reason as above. Spam filters are also often smart enough to recognize, and treat as dubious, synthesized 
reverse DNS.

If you have synthesized reverse DNS on your smarthost you're likely to have a bad time, perhaps initially, perhaps the 
first time someone notices bad mail coming from it and doesn't recognize it as a legitimate smarthost.


2) traceroute will be nicer

Most of those hosts a traceroute goes through should hopefully have stable IP addresses and meaningful, not 
synthesized, reverse DNS, I'd think. Consumer endpoints are the only ones where you might expect that not to be the 
case and synthesized reverse DNS might be an improvement there.


3) http://ipv6-test.com/ will give me 20/20 instead of 19/20 (yes that was what got me going on this post)

4) Output from "who" command on Unix will look nicer (maybe).

Regards,

Baldur

Cheers,
  Steve



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