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Re: Spitballing IoT Security


From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:19:07 -0700

In a message written on Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 08:06:34AM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
The makers of IoT devices are falling all over themselves to rush products
to market as quickly as possible in order to maximize their profits.  They
have no time for security.  They don't concern themselves with privacy
implications.  They don't run networks so they don't care about the impact
their devices may have on them.  They don't care about liability: many of
them are effectively immune because suing them would mean trans-national
litigation, which is tedious and expensive.  (And even if they lost:
they'd dissolve and reconstitute as another company the next day.)
They don't even care about each other -- I'm pretty sure we're rapidly
approaching the point where toasters will be used to attack garage door
openers and washing machines.

You are correct.

I believe the answer is to have some sort of test scheme (UL
Labratories?) for basic security and updateability.  Then federal
legislation is passed requiring any product being imported into the
country to be certified, or it is refused.

Now when they rush to market and don't get certified they get $0
and go out of business.  Products are stopped at the boader, every
shipment is reviewed by authorities, and there is no cross boarder
suing issue.

Really it's product safety 101.  UL, the CPSC, NHTSA, DOT and a
host of others have regulations that if you want to import a product
for sale it must be safe.  It's not a new or novel concept, pretty
much every country has some scheme like it.

-- 
Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org
PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/

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