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Re: Death of the Internet, Film at 11


From: Peter Baldridge <petebaldridge () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 14:45:13 -0700

On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei
<jfmezei_nanog () vaxination ca> wrote:
Generic question:

The media seems to have concluded it was an "internet of things" that
caused this DDoS.

I have not seen any evidence of this. Has this been published by an
authoritative source or is it just assumed?

Flashpoint[0], krebs[1], arstechnica[2].  I'm not sure what credible
looks like unless they release a packet but this is probably
consensus.

Has the type of device involved been identified?

routers and cameras with shitty firmware [3]

Is it more plausible that those devices were "hacked" in the OEM
firmware and sold with the "virus" built-in ? That would explain the
widespread attack.

The source code has been released. krebs [4], code [5]

Also, in cases such as this one, while the target has managed to
mitigate the attack, how long would such an attack typically continue
and require blocking ?
  This is an actual question that hasn't been answered.

Since the attack seemed focused on eastern USA DNS servers, would it be
fair to assume that the attacks came mostly from the same region (aka:
devices installed in eastern USA) ? (since anycast would point them to
that).

Aren't heat maps just population graphs?

BTW, normally, if you change the "web" password on a "device", it would
also change telnet/SSH/ftp passwords.

Seems like no one is doing either.

[0] https://www.flashpoint-intel.com/mirai-botnet-linked-dyn-dns-ddos-attacks/
[1] https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/hacked-cameras-dvrs-powered-todays-massive-internet-outage/
[2] http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/10/double-dip-internet-of-things-botnet-attack-felt-across-the-internet/
[3] https://blog.sucuri.net/2016/09/iot-home-router-botnet-leveraged-in-large-ddos-attack.html
[4] https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/source-code-for-iot-botnet-mirai-released/
[5] https://github.com/jgamblin/Mirai-Source-Code
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