RE: B5-Lite

["Eric Rogers" <ecrogers () precisionds com>]

If it is 3-4KM, I would definitely use the AF24 (24GHz) because it gives you 750M/750M Full duplex.  For longer, or a 
backup link, I would use the AF5X (not AF5) instead of the B5.  That way you have 750M full duplex during most days 
with the AF24, and on a strong rain if you use OSPF, the AF5X (5GHz) can at least carry 100Mish across until the rain 
stops.

Eric Rogers
PDS Connect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Spencer Ryan
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:46 AM
To: Jared Mauch
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
Subject: Re: B5-Lite

I didn't think the AF5 was much cheaper than an AF24 and I'd much rather be up in the 24GHz band and out of any 
contention in 5GHz.


*Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sryan () arbor net *Arbor Networks*
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On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net> wrote:

> Ouch. Was also looking at b5 but $1400 for a pair is a bit steep if 
> your effective range won't support a "short" 3-4km link.
>
> Trying to bridge the gap, and UBNT has their pluses and minuses. Maybe 
> AF5X instead I guess.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jared Mauch
>
> > On May 14, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Hal Ponton <hal () buzcom net> wrote:
> >
> > We've deployed 2 B5 links into production, the newer firmware seems 
> > to
> have fixed the issues we saw in the links when we first tested them.
> > We have a very rural customer where two hops are needed around the site.
> We're lucky in that we had two 80MHz channels free. We see around 
> 350Mbps both ways actual throughput on both links.
> > However, these links are short est. 200mtrs when we had tested these 
> > on
> longer links their performance was awful, on a 40MHz channel we saw 20Mbps.
> > For our longer links that need a bit more throughput than a Rocket 
> > M5 we
> either use Licensed radios or the AF5X which works very well.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hal Ponton
> >
> > Senior Network Engineer
> >
> > Buzcom / FibreWiFi
> >
> > > On 14 May 2016, at 11:07, Matt Hoppes <
> mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net> wrote:
> > > Jared - why not go to Ubiquiti AC gear if you need some more speed 
> > > and
> something more modern?
> > > > On May 14, 2016, at 01:43, Eric C. Miller <eric () ericheather com>
> wrote:
> > > > B5c is the only product that I've had much success with from Mimosa.
> > > >
> > > > The B5Lite is a cheap plastic shell and, and it performs like it too.
> > > >
> > > > If you have UBNT gear now, Mimosa is a good next step, but I'd
> strongly recommend that you stear away from the lite and go with the B5c.
> We use them with rocket dishes. You just need the RP-SMA to N cables.
> > > > Eric Miller, CCNP
> > > > Network Engineering Consultant
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Jared 
> > > > Mauch
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:06 PM
> > > > To: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog () nanog org>
> > > > Subject: B5-Lite
> > > >
> > > > Anyone deployed this radio in production in the US?  I’m curious 
> > > > to
> hear from people who are using it, looking at replacing some UBNT 
> hardware with it on some PTP links, going from the M-series class 
> devices to something more modern.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > - Jared