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Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:31:00 -0800


On Mar 10, 2016, at 09:29 , William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
On Mar 10, 2016, at 08:24 , Chris Adams <cma () cmadams net> wrote:
Once upon a time, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> said:
In fairness, however, this is because he is not Google’s customer, he
is Google’s product.

False supposition; Google does actually sell services as well.  $DAYJOB
pays Google for services, and has paid Cogent for network access.

Not my assumption… Assumption included from Bill Herrin’s message…

Google, by contrast, makes no demand that Cogent pay them even though
you are not paying Google for service.


Guys, that would be an important distinction if Cogent were providing
Dennis with free service. They're not. Regardless of what Google does
or doesn't do, Dennis pays Cogent to connect him to the wide Internet
which emphatically includes Google. I'm sorry I said anything at all
about Dennis' relationship with Google because that is immaterial to
whether Cogent is honorably fulfilling its contract with Dennis.

Which doesn’t disagree with anything I said.

Owen


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