Re: cloudflare hosting a ddos service?

[jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com>]

sigh...

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net>
wrote:

> CloudFlare will claim they are not hosting the problem. They are just
> hosting the web page that lets you pay for or points at or otherwise
> directs you to the problem.
>
> The actual source of packets is some other IP address. Therefore, they can
> keep hosting the web page. It is not sending the actual
> [spam|DDoS|hack|etc.], right? So stop asking them to do something about it!
>
> Whether you think that is the proper way to provide service on the
> Internet is left as an exercise to the reader.
>
> --
> TTFN,
> patrick
>
> > On Jul 26, 2016, at 9:49 PM, Mike <mike-nanog () tiedyenetworks com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >    So vbooter.org's dns and web is hosted by cloudflare?
> >
> > "Using vBooter you can take down home internet connections, websites and
> game servers such us Minecraft, XBOX Live, PSN and many more."
> >    dig -t ns vbooter.org
> >
> > ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.8-Ubuntu <<>> -t ns vbooter.org
> > ;; global options: +cmd
> > ;; Got answer:
> > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 62177
> > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> >
> > ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> > ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
> > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;vbooter.org.            IN    NS
> >
> > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > vbooter.org.        21599    IN    NS    rick.ns.cloudflare.com.
> > vbooter.org.        21599    IN    NS    amy.ns.cloudflare.com.
> >
> > dig -t a www.vbooter.org
> >
> > ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.8-Ubuntu <<>> -t a www.vbooter.org
> > ;; global options: +cmd
> > ;; Got answer:
> > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34920
> > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> >
> > ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> > ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
> > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;www.vbooter.org.        IN    A
> >
> > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > www.vbooter.org.    299    IN    CNAME    vbooter.org.
> > vbooter.org.        299    IN    A    104.28.13.7
> > vbooter.org.        299    IN    A    104.28.12.7
> >
> >
> >    Can anyone from cloudflare answer me why this fits with your business
> model?
> > Mike-