Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it

["Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc () gmail com>]

On 23 January 2016 at 02:43, Tore Anderson <tore () fud no> wrote:
> William,
>
> > Don't get me wrong. You can cure this fraud without going to extremes.
> > An open peering policy doesn't require you to buy hardware for the
> > other guy's convenience. Let him reimburse you or procure the hardware
> > you spec out if he wants to peer. Nor do you have to extend your
> > network to a location convenient for the other guy. Pick neutral
> > locations where you're willing to peer and let the other guy build to
> > them or pay you to build from there to him. Nor does an open peering
> > policy require you to give the other guy a free ride on your
> > international backbone: you can swap packets for just the regions of
> > your network in which he's willing to establish a connection. But not
> > ratios and traffic minimums -- those are not egalitarian, they're
> > designed only to exclude the powerless.
> >
> > Taken in this context, the Cogent/HE IPv6 peering spat is very simple:
> > Cogent is -the- bad actor. 100%.
>
> I'm curious: How do you know that Cogent didn't offer to peer under
> terms such as the ones you mention, but that those were refused by HE?

Have you never seen the photos of the "Cogent (AS 174) Pleas IPv6 Peer
With Us" cake?

Just a random find of the day from the image search:

  http://assets.fiercemarkets.net/files/telecom/fierceimages/cogent_cake.jpg
  
http://www.fiercetelecom.com/special-reports/six-faces-ipv6/owen-delong-hurricane-electric-evangelizing-ipv6-and-challenges-ahead

Also, I would guess not many people realise it, but HE.net actually
offers FREE IPv6 transit, including free international IPv6 transit,
e.g., if you don't need any IPv4 somehow, then you can get away with
NOT paying ANYTHING for your transit!  E.g., one can't possibly have a
more open of a peering policy than HE!

And from what I've been told, they supposedly don't even limit this to
the tunnels, so you can even have an IC, too, even without paying them
for any IPv4 transit, either (of course, HE being a value provider, I
guess it's rather unlikely that anyone has such asymmetrical setups,
however).

C.