Re: New peerings between Hurricane Electric and Level3?

["Matthew D. Hardeman" <mhardeman () ipifony com>]

That’s an excellent point, actually.

> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net> wrote:
>
> Make the AS path longer, losing traffic, and therefore revenue?
>
> Why would they do that?
>
> The twtelecom customers cannot multi-home (most of them anyway). Most of 3549’s traffic has other paths to the 
> Internet.
>
> -- 
> TTFN,
> patrick
>
> > On Jan 21, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman <mhardeman () ipifony com> wrote:
> >
> > I was actually surprised they didn’t just leave GBLX customers on AS3549, kill all external AS3549 peerings, and 
> > treat AS3549 downline as a Level3 customer, accepting L3 and GBLX communities from GBLX customers.
> >
> > That seems more along the lines of what they’re doing with the AS4323 TW Telecom customers.  (Though, in fairness, 
> > AS3356 has always carried AS4323 as a customer as far as I recall.)  It will be interesting to see if whether they 
> > kill off AS4323 peerings.
> >
> > > On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Marty Strong <marty () cloudflare com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Depends on the market and how far along their migration is going. In experience with GTT (AS4436) they’re still not 
> > > finished migrating everything to AS3257.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Marty Strong
> > > --------------------------------------
> > > CloudFlare - AS13335
> > > Network Engineer
> > > marty () cloudflare com
> > > +44 7584 906 055
> > > smartflare (Skype)
> > >
> > > http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=13335
> > >
> > > > On 21 Jan 2016, at 19:12, Matthew D. Hardeman <mhardeman () ipifony com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Intriguing.  If it were only that though, wouldn’t they just still pick it up via TeliaSonera IC?
> > > >
> > > > I did notice that in the past few months, TeliaSonera has been dropping AS3549 from spots where they had session 
> > > > with both AS3549 and with AS3356 and now reaches AS3549 via AS3356.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Marty Strong <marty () cloudflare com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I’ve heard from the grape vine that this is due to the GBLX to Level3 transition, and it’s in fact paid IP 
> > > > > transit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Marty Strong
> > > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > > CloudFlare - AS13335
> > > > > Network Engineer
> > > > > marty () cloudflare com
> > > > > +44 7584 906 055
> > > > > smartflare (Skype)
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=13335
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 21 Jan 2016, at 18:37, Matthew D. Hardeman <mhardeman () ipifony com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yesterday I was looking at some of the IPv4 and IPv6 session summaries on http://lg.he.net and saw that both the 
> > > > > > Equinix Los Angeles and Equinix Ashburn site routers have new IPv4 and IPv6 sessions (not yet running, but 
> > > > > > administratively up for about 6 days now) configured for AS3356.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know they already peer IPv6, though not at those sites.  Is this the first hint that HE and Level3 are coming 
> > > > > > around on an IPv4 and IPv6 peering agreement?

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