Re: Nat

[Lee Howard <Lee () asgard org>]

On 1/7/16, 7:39 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Doug Barton"
<nanog-bounces () nanog org on behalf of dougb () dougbarton us> wrote:

> On 12/18/2015 01:20 PM, Lee Howard wrote:
> > On 12/17/15, 1:59 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Matthew Petach"
>
> > > I'm still waiting for the IETF to come around
> > > to allowing feature parity between IPv4 and IPv6
> > > when it comes to DHCP.  The stance of not
> > > allowing the DHCP server to assign a default
> > > gateway to the host in IPv6 is a big stumbling
> > > point for at least one large enterprise I'm aware
> > > of.
> >
> >
> > Tell me again why you want this, and not routing information from the
> > router?
>
> C'mon Lee, stop pretending that you're interested in the answer to this
> question, and wasting everyone's time in the process. You know the
> answers, just as well as the people who would give them.

I’m flattered that you think I know so much.

Jared gave a useful reply, and I’m doing research before writing an
internet-draft.  


> > > Right now, the biggest obstacle to IPv6
> > > deployment seems to be the ivory-tower types
> > > in the IETF that want to keep it pristine, vs
> > > allowing it to work in the real world.
> >
> > There¹s a mix of people at IETF, but more operator input there would be
> > helpful. I have a particular draft in mind that is stuck between ³we¹d
> > rather delay IPv6 than do it wrong² and ³be realistic about how people
> > will deploy it."
>
> On this topic the operator input has been clear for over a decade, and
> yet the purists have blocked progress this whole time. The biggest
> roadblock to IPv6 deployment are its most ardent "supporters."

I don’t think IPv6 evangelists are in the way.
I do think many enterprises don’t care about IPv6, and no protocol changes
will make a difference. Some enterprise administrators wouldn’t mind
deploying IPv6 as long as they don’t have to think about it. I think this
is foolish: deploying a new Internet Protocol will not be simpler than
deploying a new Spanning Tree or a new routing protocol.
There are also enterprise administrators who have technical concerns;
those are the ones I want to help.

Lee