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Re: Thank you, Comcast.
From: Brielle Bruns <bruns () 2mbit com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 15:04:12 -0700
On 2/26/16 1:08 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:16:33AM -0700, Brielle Bruns wrote:You can't do anything about idiots buying a pro-sumer/professional device like an EdgeRouter and misconfiguring it, but Linksys/Cisco, D-Link, Netgear, etc that are targeted towards home users should be held to the fire for that kind of screw up.That is starting to happen: FTC Dings ASUS For Selling 'Secure' Routers That Shipped With Default Admin/Admin Login (And Other Flaws) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160223/11103133687/ftc-dings-asus-selling-secure-routers-that-shipped-with-default-admin-admin-login-other-flaws.shtml ---rsk
It looks like they nailed ASUS due to it claiming to be 'secure'.I don't have a problem per-se with default passwords being used on a new device that requires configuration before it actually works and isn't marketed to the ignorant end user.
IE: (again my experience with Ubiquiti stuff being a baseline) The EdgeRouter series is power user/professional targeted, default passwords, however it does not come 'pre-configured', can't route, can't NAT, etc without some initial setup.
Cisco's non-consumer stuff like the Cat6500, etc having no password by default doesn't bug me because the thing is useless until you actually configure it.
Its all about the market you are targeting IMHO. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org
Current thread:
- Re: Thank you, Comcast., (continued)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Chris Adams (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Brielle Bruns (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Roland Dobbins (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Roland Dobbins (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Octavio Alvarez (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Livingood, Jason (Feb 26)
- Consumer Equipment Sucks (Re: Thank you, Comcast.) Jared Mauch (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Chris Adams (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Dovid Bender (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Rich Kulawiec (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Brielle Bruns (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Anthony Junk (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Roland Dobbins (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Roland Dobbins (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Maxwell Cole (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Jared Mauch (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Damian Menscher via NANOG (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Roland Dobbins (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Dovid Bender (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Jared Mauch (Feb 26)