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Re: Thank you, Comcast.


From: Curtis Maurand <cmaurand () xyonet com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:04:49 -0500


I run my own resolver from behind my firewall at my home. I don't allow incoming port 53 traffic. I realize there's not a lot of privacy on the net, but I don't like having my dns queries tracked in order to target advertising at me and for annoying failed queries to end up at some annoying search page.



On 2/26/2016 9:18 AM, Maxwell Cole wrote:
I agree,

At the very least things like SNMP/NTP should be blocked. I mean how many people actually run a legit NTP server out of 
their home? Dozens? And the people who run SNMP devices with the default/common communities aren’t the ones using it.

If the argument is that you need a Business class account to run a mail server then I have no problem extending that to 
DNS servers also.

Cheers,
Max

On Feb 26, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se> wrote:

On Fri, 26 Feb 2016, Nick Hilliard wrote:

Traffic from dns-spoofing attacks generally has src port = 53 and dst port = random.  If you block packets with udp src 
port=53 towards customers, you will also block legitimate return traffic if the customers run their own DNS servers or 
use opendns / google dns / etc.
Sure, it's a very interesting discussion what ports should be blocked or not.

http://www.bitag.org/documents/Port-Blocking.pdf

This mentions on page 3.1, TCP(UDP)/25,135,139 and 445. They've been blocked for a very long time to fix some issues, 
even though there is legitimate use for these ports.

So if you're blocking these ports, it seems like a small step to block UDP/TCP/53 towards customers as well. I can't come up 
with an argument that makes sense to block TCP/25 and then not block port UDP/TCP/53 as well. If you're protecting the Internet 
from your customers misconfiguraiton by blocking port 25 and the MS ports, why not 53 as well?

This is a slippery slope of course, and judgement calls are not easy to make.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike () swm pp se

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Curtis Maurand
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mailto:cmaurand () xyonet com
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