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Re: Thank you, Comcast.


From: Maxwell Cole <mcole.mailinglists () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:00:59 -0500


Thats not really a fair comparison, I think a lot of people have issues with people censoring/controlling/prioritizing 
internet access to make money. Its a somewhat more nuanced conversation when you are talking about doing the same thing 
to prevent abuse. 

Cheers,
Max

On Feb 26, 2016, at 10:32 AM, James Downs <egon () egon cc> wrote:


On Feb 26, 2016, at 06:31, Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf () dessus com> wrote:

ISP's should block nothing, to or from the customer, unless they make it clear *before* selling the service (and 
include it in the Terms and Conditions of Service Contract), that they are not selling an Internet connection but 
are selling a partially functional Internet connection (or a limited Internet Service), and specifying exactly what 
the built-in deficiencies are.

Absolutely. It’s funny that a group that worries about about net neutrality and whinges about T-Mobile’s zero-rating 
certain video sources is perfectly fine with blindly blocking *ports*, without even understanding if it’s legitimate 
traffic.

Deficiencies may include:
port/protocol blockage toward the customer (destination blocks)
port/protocol blockage toward the internet (source blocks)
DNS diddling (filtering of responses, NXDOMAIN redirection/wildcards, etc)

This would be a big reason to point to a different DNS...

Traffic Shaping/Policing/Congestion policies, inbound and outbound

Some ISPs are good at this and provide opt-in/out methods for at least the first three on the list.  Others not so 
much.



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