nanog mailing list archives
Re: Thank you, Comcast.
From: Maxwell Cole <mcole.mailinglists () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:00:59 -0500
Thats not really a fair comparison, I think a lot of people have issues with people censoring/controlling/prioritizing internet access to make money. Its a somewhat more nuanced conversation when you are talking about doing the same thing to prevent abuse. Cheers, Max
On Feb 26, 2016, at 10:32 AM, James Downs <egon () egon cc> wrote:On Feb 26, 2016, at 06:31, Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf () dessus com> wrote: ISP's should block nothing, to or from the customer, unless they make it clear *before* selling the service (and include it in the Terms and Conditions of Service Contract), that they are not selling an Internet connection but are selling a partially functional Internet connection (or a limited Internet Service), and specifying exactly what the built-in deficiencies are.Absolutely. It’s funny that a group that worries about about net neutrality and whinges about T-Mobile’s zero-rating certain video sources is perfectly fine with blindly blocking *ports*, without even understanding if it’s legitimate traffic.Deficiencies may include: port/protocol blockage toward the customer (destination blocks) port/protocol blockage toward the internet (source blocks) DNS diddling (filtering of responses, NXDOMAIN redirection/wildcards, etc)This would be a big reason to point to a different DNS...Traffic Shaping/Policing/Congestion policies, inbound and outbound Some ISPs are good at this and provide opt-in/out methods for at least the first three on the list. Others not so much.
Current thread:
- Re: Thank you, Comcast., (continued)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Rich Kulawiec (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Henry Yen (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Blake Hudson (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Roland Dobbins (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Livingood, Jason (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Blake Hudson (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Blake Hudson (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. John Levine (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Mike Hammett (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. James Downs (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Maxwell Cole (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. David Bass (Feb 26)
- RE: Thank you, Comcast. Naslund, Steve (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Brielle Bruns (Feb 26)
- RE: Thank you, Comcast. Philip Dorr (Feb 26)
- Re: messing with DNS, was Thank you, Comcast. John Levine (Feb 26)
- Re: messing with DNS, was Thank you, Comcast. Livingood, Jason (Feb 26)
- RE: Thank you, Comcast. Jay Nugent (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Roland Dobbins (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. John Levine (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Roland Dobbins (Feb 26)