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Re: Canada joins the 21st century !


From: Blake Hudson <blake () ispn net>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:32:21 -0600

Jean-Francois Mezei wrote on 12/22/2016 8:59 AM:
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Yesterday, the CRTC declared the Internet to be a basic service (which
enables additional regulatory powers) and set speed goals to 50/10.

Note that this is not a definition of broadband as the FCC had done, it
one of many criteria that will be weighted when proposal to get funding
is received. But hopefully, it means the end of deployment of DSL.

...

Some rural areas in the US are seeing either VDSL2 or bonded DSL deployments which do push the capabilities available via copper to the home deployments. Having operated cable, DSL, and fiber networks, I can say that cable and DSL have managed to stay relevant a lot longer than I expected.

I also think it's a bit disingenuous to say that cable provider meets the 50/10 standard and DSL provider doesn't when a hypothetical cable plant might provide 1Gbps x 72Mbps of last mile bandwidth shared between 100+ subscribers and DSL plant might provide 20Mbps x 1.5Mbps dedicated to each subscriber circuit. In this example, the worst case for the cable plant is 10Mx768K per subscriber (note, this doesn't meet the specified goal) & the DSL plant is 20Mx1.5M per subscriber (twice the speed, but also doesn't meet the specified goal). In other words, sometimes the cable subscribers might experience faster speeds than DSL subscribers, sometimes they might experience slower speeds. The DSL subscribers would see consistent speeds.

If a provider's deployment model provides "up to" the specified 50/10M, but subscribers see lower than these rates, then I would argue that the provider hasn't met the goal. While a cable provider could engineer their plant to dedicate 50/10 bandwidth per subscriber, this is not done today and will not be done in the near future because it isn't profitable (whether its necessary is another discussion). This seems to be profitable in FTTH and vDSL2 deployments because providers are exceeding these goals today in the US.

Both cable and DSL technologies have managed to stay relevant longer than I expected because each seem to have pros, including the ability to utilize an existing infrastructure. I don't see either technology dying immediately, and can imagine that vendors may yet be able to eek out more performance from the existing infrastructure, but I do see more future potential using fiber to the premises infrastructure.


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