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Re: Service Providers behaviour for dual homed enterprises


From: Jason Bullen <jmbullen21 () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 10:27:48 -0400

Thank you all for answering.  I was disregarding Local Pref because the
route server I was on was showing 100.  That was an error on my part though
as it clearly states in the login banner that it is eBGP peering with the
AT&T routers hence the local Pref would go back to 100 from its
perspective.  Again, thanks for the quick and thorough responses.

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Blake Hudson <blake () ispn net> wrote:



Stephen Satchell wrote on 9/24/2015 8:39 AM:

On 09/23/2015 02:38 PM, Jason Bullen wrote:

I've always worked in enterprise only so I thought you guys might be able
to help me with this one.
We are dual homed to Verizon and AT&T.  We prepend all our prefixes out
AT&T to make them least preferred.  During a recent issue we found some
users were coming in via AT&T.  Using various looking glasses it looks
like
if I use an AT&T server(route-server.ip.att.net) the best path is the
prepended route through AT&T; in fact,I don't even see the VZB route.
If I
use a 3rd party looking glass(router-server.he.net) I see what I
anticipated, which is the shorter AS-Path through VZB.

So if my research is correct, the internet prefers Verizon UNLESS they
are
a direct AT&T customer then they would use the AT&T circuit.
Is this a standard practice that I should assume to encounter?

Thanks in advance


That's been my experience, and with other sets of providers, too.

My current company is dual-homed with AT&T and Charter Fiber. Those
customers on UVerse come in the AT&T link no matter what we do with BGP to
convince the cloud to let packets come in the fatter pipe.


Jason, while others have offered acknowledgement of the behavior you are
seeing as well as solutions, I think it might be relevant to point out that
this is simply a matter of BGP best path selection. BGP does not use AS
path length (hops) as its primary path selector. Search for "bgp best path
selection" to find out more about how BGP selects the best path. As others
have noted, local pref is often utilized to control routing and should be
your preferred way to control path selection in addition to AS path length.
However, the ultimate way to control routing would be to advertise more
specific prefixes via the path that you want traffic to flow.

--Blake



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