Re: /27 the new /24

[Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>]

What Cisco routers, and what vintage IOS, are you finding have no IPSec support? I've not run into that problem. 

 -mel beckman

> On Oct 4, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Jon Lewis <jlewis () lewis org> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 4 Oct 2015, Mel Beckman wrote:
> >
> > If it doesn't support IPSec, it's not really IPv6. Just as if it failed to support any other mandatory IPv6 
> > specification, such as RA.
>
> Go tell cisco that.  IIRC, the first network I dual-stacked, I was kind of surprised when I found I could not use 
> authentication in OSPFv3, because OSPFv3 assumes IPv6 will supply the IPSec to do auth...but these routers didn't 
> support IPSec.  They still managed to route IPv6 and support IPv6 customers...so it really was IPv6...just not the 
> full suite of everything you'd expect from IPv6.
>
> > Your observation simply means that users must be informed when buying IPv6 devices, just as they must with any 
> > product. You can buy either genuine IPv6 or half-baked IPv6 products. When I speak of IPv6, I speak only of the 
> > genuine article.
>
> Does anyone buy "IPv6 devices"?
>
> The biggest hurdle I've seen with IPv6 adoption (i.e. going dual-stack, with the idea that we'll gradually transition 
> most things / most traffic from v4 to v6) is the number of end-user network providers that don't offer v6 at all.  My 
> home cable internet provider still doesn't offer IPv6.  When I asked one of their support people about it recently, I 
> was told not to worry, they have plenty of v4 addresses left, but it was implied that they do plan to start offering 
> v6 sometime soon.  They should have started rolling out IPv6 to any customers that wanted it years ago, so that by 
> today, it would be standard for all their installations to be dual-stack.  But here we are, nearly 2016, and they 
> don't have a single IPv6 customer (AFAIK) yet.
>
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