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Re: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?


From: Mehmet Akcin <mehmet () akcin net>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:01:15 -0700

Amen!

Comms team let us know if there is anything we can do to support you
otherwise thanks in advance for fixing this issue.

Mehmet

On Monday, October 26, 2015, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net> wrote:

Myth: Andrew’s post has utility to the 10K+ people reading it. (Not
watching Twitter makes me braindead? really? Yeah, it’s 2015. Get
up-to-date, should have sent a snapchat. Duh.)

Fact: Andrew should probably just un-sub since he finds NANOG useless.
That would actually provide utility to the rest of us.


I repeat: The UN-PAID VOLUNTEERS on the Communications Committee do a
great job. If you think you can do better, please please please volunteer.
Otherwise, simply thank them for doing what you refuse to do and get on
with your life.

--
TTFN,
patrick

On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Kirch <trelane () trelane net
<javascript:;>> wrote:

All,

Myth: NANOG supposed to be the gold standard for best practices.
Fact: 500 spam messages over the weekend.

Myth:  there were no complaints and this issue was raised over the
weekend
Fact: I raised it this weekend via twitter twice @NANOG, and requested
contact from SCNET (NANOG's upstream) trying to find a live person to
shut
it off.

Myth: blah blah blah social media is a bad way to get ahold of
netops/abuse.
Fact: Social media is an acceptable way to report abuse.  My marketing
department certainly knows how to get ahold of me when such an issue
occurs. It's 2015, and if you and everyone you know isn't watching
twitter
I can't help you, because you've gone braindead.

Myth: but you could have reached out to someone else and maybe done
something to stop this quickly.
Fact: I reached out to several people at ARIN and elsewhere trying to
get a
live person at NANOG to no avail.

Myth: this is acceptable because NANOG has political clout in the US and
elsewhere.
Fact: If I was still running the AHBL, NANOG would be it's own private
intranet right now.


Andrew




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