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Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality?


From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 11:33:46 -0500

(CAUTION CAUTION CAUTION  - just a swag)

isn't this just moving content to v6 and/or behind the great-nat-of-tmo?

'reduce our need for NAT infra and incent customers to stop using NAT
requiring services' ?

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Shane Ronan <shane () ronan-online com> wrote:
T-Mobile claims they are not accepting any payment from these content
providers for inclusion in Binge On.

"Onstage today, Legere said any company can apply to join the Binge On
program. "Anyone who can meet our technical requirement, we’ll include," he
said. "This is not a net neutrality problem." Legere pointed to the fact
that Binge On doesn't charge providers for inclusion and customers don't pay
to access it."
http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/10/9704482/t-mobile-uncarrier-binge-on-netflix-hbo-streaming



On 11/20/15 10:45 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:

According to:


http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/20/fcc-chairman-gives-t-mobiles-binge-on-the-thumbs-up/

Chairman Wheeler thinks that T-mob's new "customers can get uncapped media
stream data, but only from the people we like" service called Binge On
is pro-competition.

My take on this is that the service is *precisely* what Net Neutrality
was supposed to prevent -- carriers offering paid fast-lanes to content
providers -- and that this is anti-competitive to the sort of "upstart
YouTube" entities that NN was supposed to protect...

and that *that* is the competition that NN was supposed to protect.

And I just said the same thing two different ways.

Cause does anyone here think that T-mob is giving those *carriers* pride
of place *for free*?

Corporations don't - in my experience - give away lots of money out of
the goodness of their hearts.

Cheers,
-- jr 'whacky weekend' a




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