RE: Peering and Network Cost

[Eric Dugas <EDugas () zerofail com>]

We went that way too about 2 years ago. We usually pass around 25 to 40% of our North American traffic to the 4 IXes 
we're connected at a very low cost in Toronto and Montreal. One of the biggest IX we're connected to in New York is 
almost the same price per Mbps as some cheap transit providers but we're keeping our port for the connectivity 
improvement.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: May 21, 2015 8:50 AM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: Peering and Network Cost

As a small ISP, I'll peer with everybody possible. ;-) It's mostly about cost, but the quality goes up as well. Some of 
the people we're working with saw an increase in consumption the moment they joined IXes. The quality of the 
connections improved, so the streaming video (assumed) was able to flow at a higher bit-rate. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


----- Original Message -----

From: "Rafael Possamai" <rafael () gav ufsc br> 
To: "James Bensley" <jwbensley () gmail com> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:40:23 AM 
Subject: Re: Peering and Network Cost 

James, curious to know... what size ISPs are they? In the last few years 
with the larger ones it has always been about lowering cost and increasing 
revenue, which throws the original idea of peering out the window (unless 
you are willing to pay). 

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 4:52 AM, James Bensley <jwbensley () gmail com> wrote: 

> On 17 April 2015 at 16:53, Justin Wilson - MTIN <lists () mtin net> wrote: 
> > Peering and peering on an exchange are two different things. Peering at 
> an exchange has several benefits other than the simple cost of transit. If 
> you are in a large data center which charges fees for cross connects a 
> single cross connect to an exchange can save you money. 
> > Peering can also be a sales tool. If you buy from a VOIP provider and 
> are peered with them your latency and such will go down. You also have 
> more control over the QOS over that peer. This can be spun into marketing. 
> > Not to toot our own horn but we put together a list of benefits for our 
> IX customers: 
> > http://www.midwest-ix.com/blog/?p=15 
> >
> >
> > Also, a good article at: 
> http://blog.webserver.com.my/index.php/the-benefits-of-hosting-at-internet-exchange-point/ 
>
>
> I also have a similar working document that I'd welcome feedback on to 
> improve; 
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i2bPZDt75hAwcR4iKMqaNSGIeM-nJSWLZ6SLTTnuXNs/edit?usp=sharing 
>
> I've used it once to help an ISP evalutate peering and started them in 
> the world of public peering. I'm now going through that proces again 
> with another ISP and again they will start public peering soon, having 
> used this doc in both cases as an intro/FAQ for them. 
>
> Cheers, 
> James.