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Re: booster to gain distance above 60km


From: Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 20:59:33 +0100

Sorry I forgot to read you message properly. You are saying you want 8
channels - note this will give you twice as much insertion loss compared to
two channels and might tip the balance towards requiring amplification. You
should also ask Fiberstore for advice for which channels you choose, as
there might be a huge difference in loss.

You can not amplify the single fiber. The amplifier will not tolerate a
BIDI signal. You will therefore need to amplify each channel in separate
amplifiers and that becomes very expensive.

In theory the signal could be split using an optical circulator:
http://www.fiberstore.com/c/optical-circulator_1311 and then you could
amplify either RX or TX - probably you would want to amplify RX to sidestep
issues with feedback and reflections disturbing the amplifier. I never
tried this but I am very curious if it actually works...

Regards,

Baldur



On 28 March 2015 at 20:14, Rodrigo 1telecom <rodrigo () 1telecom com br> wrote:

Already use this bidi sfp+ to 80km from fiberstore... But i can't link two
sides... Have -24dbi... Everything alright with  fiber... If i using this
circuit with this signal i will have many trouble...
I wiil buy a dwdm simplex solution from fiberstore again to use on this
curcuit...
What booster and preamplifier i have to use on it?!
I will buy a 8channel simplex ... C21/c51, c22/c52 etc.... Do you know
what a booster and an amplifier i have to buy?

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Grupo Connectoway

Em 28/03/2015, às 13:51, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
escreveu:

Hi

The easy way to get 63 km is to use a SFP+ module that is rated for 63 km.
Fiberstore has 60 km BIDI SFP+ for USD 325 and 80 km BIDI for USD 425.

If you want to use a booster you would need DWDM modules instead. And you
have to add in the DWDM splitter and two boosters. For each end of the link
it would be USD 435 for the SFP+ module, USD 174 for the BIDI DWDM splitter
in a rack chassis and USD 1300 for a 13 dBm output booster.

So - forget about the booster and just get the 80 km BIDI modules.

Regards,

Baldur




On 26 March 2015 at 13:07, Rodrigo Augusto <rodrigo () 1telecom com br>
wrote:

Hi folksŠ we have a point and have a 63km between point A to point BŠ. We
have a sigle fiber ( only one fiber) and use a fiberstore sfp+ 10GB dibi
1270/1330 module to connect these sites. All attenuation are okŠI don¹t
have
any trouble on fiber Š.
I have received this signal on my sfp+:

Receiver signal average optical power     :  0.0026 mW / -25.85 dBm


Does anyone know if have some possible to amplifier this scenario to get
more 7db ? Is it possible to put any booster or any way to solve this?
I think to use a optical PreAmlifierŠbut I don¹t know if is possible
because
my scenario have just one fiberŠor, use a ROPA- remote optical pumping
amplifier) because I have 63kmŠ
Does anyone have some idea?

Rodrigo Augusto
Gestor de T.I. Grupo Connectoway
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