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Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6
From: Laszlo Hanyecz <laszlo () heliacal net>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 23:42:07 +0000
Lorzenzo is probably not going to post anymore because of this. It looks to me like Lorenzo wants the same thing as most everyone here, aside from the university net nazis, and he's got some balls to come defend his position against the angry old men of NANOG. Perhaps the approach of attacking DHCP is not the right one, but it sounds like his goal is to make IPv6 better than how IPv4 turned out. Things like privacy extensions, multiple addresses and PD are great because they make it harder for people to do address based tracking, which is generally regarded as a desirable feature except by the people who want to do the tracking. DHCPv6 is a crutch that allows operators to simply implement IPv6 with all the same hacks as IPv4 and continue to do address based access control, tracking, etc. It's like a 'goto' statement - it can be used to do clever things, but it can also be used to hack stuff and create very hard to fix problems down the road. I think what Lorenzo is trying to do is to use his influence/position to forcefully prevent people from doing this, and while that may not be the most diplomatic way, I admire his courage in posting here and trying to reason with the mob. -Laszlo On Jun 10, 2015, at 10:24 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
On 06/10/2015 02:51 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote:From: Lorenzo Colitti Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:27 AM please do not construe my words on this thread as being Google's position on anything. These messages were sent from my personal email address, and I do not speak for my employer.Can we construe your postings on the issue thread as being Google and/or Androids official position? They are posted by lorenzo () google com with a tag of "Project Member", and I believe you also declined the request in the issue under that mantle.Oh, stop this. The only thing this will accomplish is a giant black hole of silence from anybody at Google and any other $MEGACORP in a similar situation. Mike
Current thread:
- RE: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6, (continued)
- RE: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Tony Hain (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Scott Whyte (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Karl Auer (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Jared Mauch (Jun 10)
- RE: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Paul B. Henson (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Michael Thomas (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Jeff McAdams (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ray Soucy (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Todd Underwood (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ray Soucy (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Laszlo Hanyecz (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Mark Andrews (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ray Soucy (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Laszlo Hanyecz (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ray Soucy (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 James R Cutler (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Jim Popovitch (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Todd Underwood (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Chris Adams (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Baldur Norddahl (Jun 12)