Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"?

[Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>]

> On Jul 15, 2015, at 08:57 , Matthew Kaufman <matthew () matthew at> wrote:
>
> On 7/14/2015 11:22 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
> > Yet I can take a Windows XP box.  Tell it to enable IPv6 and it
> > just works.  Everything that a node needed existed when Windows XP
> > was released.  The last 15 years has been waiting for ISP's and CPE
> > vendors to deliver IPv6 as a product.  This is not to say that every
> > vendor deployed all the parts of the protocol properly but they
> > existed.
>
> This is only true for dual-stacked networks. I just tried to set up an IPv6-only WiFi network at my house recently, 
> and it was a total fail due to non-implementation of relatively new standards... starting with the fact that my 
> Juniper SRX doesn't run a load new enough to include RDNSS information in RAs, and some of the devices I wanted to 
> test with (Android tablets) won't do DHCPv6.

That’s a pretty old load then, as I’ve had RDNSS on my SRX-100 for several years now.

> The XP box is in an even worse situation if you try to run it on a v6-only network.

Only if you care about DNS.

> And yet we've known for years now that dual-stack wasn't going to be an acceptable solution, because nobody was on 
> track to get to 100% IPv6 before IPv4 runout happened.

An IPv6-only DNS server with RFC-1918 IPv4 connectivity to your XP box does solve the problem in question.

> Go to any business with hardware that is 3-5 years old in its IT infrastructure and devices ranging from PCs running 
> XP to the random consumer gear people bring in (cameras, printers, tablets, etc.) and see how easy it is to get 
> everything talking on an IPv6-only (no IPv4 at all) network... including using IPv6 to do automatic updates and all 
> the other pieces that need to work. We're nowhere near ready for that.

Anyone who has that already has IPv4 addresses on all that ancient gear, so they can, in fact, dual stack at least that 
fraction of their network.

How about helping them deploy instead of continually trying to throw red herrings in their path.

Owen