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Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion


From: Joe Maimon <jmaimon () ttec com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 03:59:21 -0400

There has been tomes on this topic. There will continue to be many more.

That is because many of you continue in trying to defend the following concept.

customer subnet bits  ==  isp customers bits

So now, the ISP is supposed to put some effort and gain more bits. Why not the customer?

Its inherently suspicious. Because its inherently wrong - for the ISP, and possibly for the address space as well.

Indulge me as I wax poetic.

I venture to say that proponents want to see everyone else have the service of their own dreams. When broadband rolled to the masses with a single ipv4 address per subscriber, forget about routing, their hearts broke. The new common denominator was a far cry from what their experience was. The division of internet into different classes of netizens a bitter pill to swallow. You are only one budget cut away from joining the ho-poloi. Its quite scary.

Hence the determination that no user should ever have to go without enough addresses ever again. A new common denominator, now is the time to get it accepted!

It will be like the old days, a class C with every leased line! Forever!

And the ISPs?

They have enough to get started and they can get more if they put the effort in.

So all the rational and logical debate is pointless. Gut feelings, philosophy and emotions are what is at stake and those tend not to respond well to things like logic and reason.

Joe


Owen DeLong wrote:
And I’m saying you’re ignoring an important part of reality.

Whatever ISPs default to deploying now will become the standard to which application developers develop.



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