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Re: [BULK] Verizon exiting California


From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:57:09 +0000

I work on E911 systems and the infrastructure that monitors E911 call distribution and integrity. California E911 is 
part of a nationwide management system operated out of the DC area. California’s E911 exceeds all the mandated 
reliability requirements. The most problematic part of E911 is cellular call handling, because of geolocation factors 
that make calls more complex to dispatch. and that part of the system is staying with Verizon. So your claim that E911 
“routinely fails…for weeks at a time” isn’t borne out by monitoring records, unless you have some unpublished data to 
share.

 -mel

On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Mike <mike-nanog () tiedyenetworks com> wrote:

On 07/31/2015 06:27 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Can anyone else back that up (or refute it)?




I am a CLEC operating in California west, and I collocate with verizon. Yes, Verizon is proposing to sell it's 
wireline assets to Frontier and become effectively an all-wireless carrier.


Frontier is going to get a patchwork of ancient switches and poorly maintained outside plant, in rural areas that 
would require tens of millions of dollars in upgrades for sparely populaed areas it could never turn a profit on. I 
seriously wonder about the viability of taking on the debt to get those areas and even just maintain them, vz itself 
has done a very poor job and it presently operates a network where E911 routinely fails along with pots for many, for 
weeks at a time. And somehow, Verizon has been allowed to skate along without being held to the fire for it's 
mandated utility / carrier of last resort obligations.

I worry that Frontier, with all the new added debt obligations, will not able to swallow this pill.

Mike-



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