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Re: PDU for high amp 48Vdc


From: "Bill Woodcock" <woody () pch net>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 19:21:25 -0800


The rotary actuators are an off-the-shelf item for transfer switches.  No problem to get them paired with high-amperage 
switches. But a contactor, which is a solenoid-driven switch, is also an off-the-shelf item. The ones I use in EV 
applications are rated for 1000A, and cost about $300.  You need to be careful to look at the trade-off between 
voltage, amperage, and the per-cycle probability of a weld, though.  An over-rated contactor helps a lot if you're 
going to be cycling it a lot, whereas if it's for emergency use only, you can hew a lot closer to the max rating. 

    
                -Bill


On Jan 28, 2015, at 18:40, Robert Drake <rdrake () direcpath com> wrote:

For larger DC devices with ~50amps per side, does anyone have a software accessible way to turn off power?

I've looked into PDU's but the ones I find have a max of 10amps.

I've considered building something with solenoids or a rotary actuator that would turn the switches on or off, but 
that's a complete one-off and would need to be done for each device we manage (not to mention it involves janky 
wiring all over the place I've got to explain to the colo)

My use case is pretty infrequent so it needs to be remote-hands cheap.. it's for emergencies when you need to 
completely power cycle a redundantly powered DC device.  The last time I needed this it was because a router was 
stuck in a boot loop due to a bad IOS upgrade and wouldn't break to rommon since it had been >60 seconds.  It came up 
again tonight because we wanted to disable one power supply to troubleshoot something.

FWIW, I believe I've seen newer Cisco gear with high-end power supplies that have a console or ethernet port which 
would possibly let you shut them down remotely.  That solves the problem nicely if you're dealing with only one bit 
of hardware, but I'd like a general solution that worked with any vendor.  Possibly a fuse panel with solenoids that 
could add/remove fuses when needed.. or would that be considered dangerous in code-ways or in telco fire regulation 
ways?






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