Re: interconnection costs (off list)

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

Faisal is new to the Internet. ;-) 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal () snappytelecom net> 
To: "Reza Motamedi" <motamedi () cs uoregon edu> 
Cc: "nanog list" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:31:11 PM 
Subject: Re: interconnection costs (off list) 

Ouch... so much for off list .. :( 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support () Snappytelecom net 

----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal () snappytelecom net> 
> To: "Reza Motamedi" <motamedi () cs uoregon edu> 
> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog () nanog org> 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:28:13 PM 
> Subject: Re: interconnection costs (off list) 

> Salam Reza, 
>
> You are asking an interesting set of questions, it might be easier to answer the 
> over a phone call conversation (at least fro our perspective, being a small 
> ISP/NSP ). I can write to you a lengthy reply, but am not sure if I will be 
> able to convey to you the information properly. 
>
> The way you have posed the question, indicates to me that you are taking a 
> particular view of a 'network', which is not the same view I hold. I am not 
> sure if your view is more prevalent or our view as a service provider. 
>
> Regardless I think it would make for an interesting conversation. Feel free to 
> call me at your convenience. 
>
> Regards. 
>
> Faisal Imtiaz 
> Snappy Internet & Telecom 
> 7266 SW 48 Street 
> Miami, FL 33155 
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support () Snappytelecom net 
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Reza Motamedi" <motamedi () cs uoregon edu> 
> > To: "nanog list" <nanog () nanog org> 
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:44:06 AM 
> > Subject: interconnection costs 
>
> > Hi NANOG 
> >
> > We are a group of researchers and our focus is on the economy of 
> > interconnection in the Internet. My question is mainly about the various 
> > costs of an AS establishing a connection with another AS, including the 
> > costs charged by the colocation providers. I am familiar with most of the 
> > connection options such as public peering on IXP, and private peering 
> > through xconnects. My understanding is that in addition to the cost of 
> > transit that the smaller AS pays to the larger AS, in the former you pay a 
> > monthly fee to establish a link to the switching fabric and then you can 
> > connect to as many ASes that are member in the IXP, and in the later you 
> > need to pay for as many xconnects that you need to connect to as many ASes 
> > that you plan to peer with. Obviously in both cases there is the cost of 
> > being in the colocation and renting a rack or whatever. What are the other 
> > costs involved? How should the AS reach the colocation center in the first 
> > place? I don't think every network can dig a hole an lay cables. Who should 
> > they pay to get from one PoP to another? Do ASes have to pay for xconnect 
> > to connect their PoP in a data center to the rest of their network? 
> >
> > I think there is no single answer as different businesses may have 
> > different pricing models. I hope the discussion can help me understand the 
> > whole ecosystem a little bit better. 
> >
> >
> > Best Regards 
> > Reza Motamedi (R.M) 
> > Graduate Research Fellow 
> > Oregon Network Research Group 
> > Computer and Information Science 
> > University of Oregon