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Re: IPv6 Cogent vs Hurricane Electric


From: "Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 22:58:56 -0600

On 6 December 2015 at 18:24, Max Tulyev <maxtul () netassist ua> wrote:
On 04.12.15 01:19, Baldur Norddahl wrote:
On 1 December 2015 at 20:23, Max Tulyev <maxtul () netassist ua> wrote:
I have to change at least one of my uplinks because of it, which one is
better to drop, HE or Cogent?


Question: Why would you have to drop one of them? You have no problem if
you have both.

Because of money, isn't it? I don't want to pay twice!

Even in the case of a link failure to one of them, you will likely not see
a big impact since everyone else also keeps multiple transits. You will
only have trouble with people that are single homed Cogent or HE, in which
case it is more them having a problem than you.

As I fully implement IPv6 on my net, I got a HUGE impact already. That's
the problem.

So as this is not a bug, but a long time story - I relized for me as a
cutomer connectivity from both Hurricane Electric and Cogent is a crap.
So people should avoid both, and buy for example from Level3 and NTT,
which do not have such problem and do not sell me partial connectivity
without any warning before signing the contract.


I agree with your conclusion, however, your premise is not correct —
technically, HE is /not/ requiring you to purchase IPv6 from them; in
fact, they're rather openly giving away IPv6, including IPv6 transit,
away for free.

My understanding is that this includes both the tunnels (including
BGP) and the on-premise connectivity options.

So, feel free to ask for your money back from HE, and try that with Cogent, too!

C.



I'm just a IP transit customer, and I don't give a something for that
wars who is the real Tier1. I just want a working service for my money
instead of answering a hundreds calls from my subscribers!


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