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Re: CMTS/Public Wifi provisioning question


From: Blake Hudson <blake () ispn net>
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 10:02:47 -0500

DOCSIS config files allow one to use service flow classifiers that match on a variety of criteria. I imagine either the IP range used for public access or the SSID/VLAN/Interface of the wifi hotspot could be used in this instance. http://www.cmtsinfo.net/?howto=cm_config provides a good general overview of what's available and how to apply (see section 6 on classifiers).

Of course, even if a dedicated service flow is used, this could still compete with the bandwidth available to the modem or to other modems served on the same node. I could envision this making network bandwidth management more difficult as customers roam, especially if they densely congregate.

--Blake

Frank Bulk wrote the following on 5/29/2014 10:27 PM:
Interesting, I may need to open a ticket with Moto to ask how that’s done.

Frank

From: Scott Helms [mailto:khelms () zcorum com]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:58 AM
To: Frank Bulk
Cc: Jay Ashworth; NANOG
Subject: Re: CMTS/Public Wifi provisioning question

 From talking to folks involved with http://www.cablewifi.com/ and Comcast support there is a separate service flow for 
the public SSID.  I have yet to configure that in the lab, but it sounds like a good project :)




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On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Frank Bulk <frnkblk () iname com <mailto:frnkblk () iname com> > wrote:

It's my understanding that the public Wi-Fi uses the same data flow as the subcriber's data flow.  I've seen nothing in 
the release notes for ARRIS or Moto that suggest one can tie an SSID to a specific service flow.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org <mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org> ] On Behalf Of Jay Ashworth
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:01 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: CMTS/Public Wifi provisioning question

I expect Frank Bulk to have an opinion on this, all others welcome.

Hat tip to Bright House -- I've noticed lately that I don't have to go
through their captive portal when using their public wifi hotspots (they
participate in the CableWifi consortium, using WAPs built into their
6580 and other cablemodems, and offer a carrier-specific connection SSID
as well).

This has led me to a point of curiosity:

If I'm the subscriber, and I've paid for 15 mb/s down, then my wired
connection and my private wireless (if provisioned, and they charge
$10/mo, so I'll do that myself, thanks) are using one ... DOCSIS path?
back to the CMTS.

I assume that cableco provided voice is on a separate path, and I'm sure
the TV service is -- if it's even IP at all.

But the question is: is that public wifi service *also* on a separate
bandwidth-limited channel out of the cablemodem?

Offline replies fine, unless you think it's of sufficiently general
interest; I expect it's implementation dependent.

Cheers,
-- jra

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