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Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report


From: Alain Hebert <ahebert () pubnix net>
Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 06:47:46 -0400

    Well,

    I was just a suit drone into one of their 100 little IT firm around
the world.

    The nearest I got to an actual AA associate was during a 1 month
project in Chicago (:

    Wasted my time really... They billed 3 months to their clients, for
a project that took 1 month, and I was asked to fill the cubicle for 2
month doing nothing.

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Alain Hebert                                ahebert () pubnix net   
PubNIX Inc.        
50 boul. St-Charles
P.O. Box 26770     Beaconsfield, Quebec     H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911  http://www.pubnix.net    Fax: 514-990-9443

On 05/01/14 18:43, Owen DeLong wrote:
Care to comment on how you feel about the COI that developed between AA Consulting business at Enron and AA auditing 
Enron?

Not asking you to disclose anything confidential, but if you have wisdom to impart about any sort of generic lessons 
learned, etc. that might be relevant to this discussion, I think that could be useful.

Owen

On May 1, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Alain Hebert <ahebert () pubnix net> wrote:

   Hey,

   I worked for them (AA) in the early 90's =D

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Alain Hebert                                ahebert () pubnix net   
PubNIX Inc.        
50 boul. St-Charles
P.O. Box 26770     Beaconsfield, Quebec     H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911  http://www.pubnix.net    Fax: 514-990-9443

On 05/01/14 14:07, John Souter wrote:
On 01/05/14 17:41, Owen DeLong wrote:
The problem with this theory is that if auditors can be so easily put to the
street, you run into the risk of auditors altering behavior to increase customer
satisfaction in ways that prevent them from providing the controls that are the
reason auditors exist in the first place.
I disagree.  And the power balance is generally tilted way in favour of
the auditors, as many people on this thread have already commented.  In
my experience, most companies are afraid/inhibited to raise issues or
challenge their auditors in any way.  Nobody is asking auditors to roll
over, but if their behaviour is unprofessional/illogical, then a short
sharp shock should do the trick.

If you don’t believe me, examine the history of Arthur Anderson and their
relationship with a certain Houston-based company which failed spectacularly.
Can't really comment, but it was financial auditing, and ISTR that many
things failed in that situation - not just financial auditing.

John



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