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Re: misunderstanding scale


From: Robert Webb <rwebb () ropeguru com>
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 11:47:33 -0400

So two things here, Bryan...

First, there may be those that do not require IPv6 due to size. So what is YOUR big plan to connect all those on IPv4 to the rest of the IPv6 world that has dropped IPv4 addresses.

Second, as a DO customer, I am now beginning to understand the culture and ideology over IPv6 at DO. IPv6 has been asked about since at least 2012 with initial promises of 'Q3 2012 the 'Q4, now no one even wants to respond. With everyone else bringing native IPv6 on board, I see people starting to leave unless you change.

Additional support on my feeling of DO and IPv6, is DO's stance of directly not even allowing IPv6 tunnels to HE, SiXXs, or any of the other providers by specifically teliing them not to allow connections from your IPv4 address space.

Good luck on your IPv4 ride when none of your customers have anyone else to talk to.

Robert

Apologies to all other list members for the somewhat off topic rant.



On 03/22/2014 05:25 AM, Bryan Socha wrote:
Fair point.   There are some situations that do need more than most, but
aren't they the ones that should be on ipv6 already???????

I know a few are shouldn't I be on ipv6 and that's fair too.   I'm
plqnnning some speaking engagements to cover that.  Its not blind and
ignoring.
  On Mar 22, 2014 4:36 AM, "TJ" <trejrco () gmail com> wrote:

Millions of IPs don't matter in the face of X billions of people, and
XX-XXX billions of devices - and this is just the near term estimate.
(And don't forget utilization efficiency  - Millions of IPs is not
millions of customers served.)

Do IPv6.
/TJ

On Mar 22, 2014 3:09 AM, "Bryan Socha" <bryan () digitalocean com> wrote:
As someone growing in the end of ipv4, its all fake.    Sure, the rirs
will
run out, but that's boring.    Don't believe the fake auction sites.
Fair price of IP at the end is $1 for bad Rep $2 for barely used, $3 for
no
spam and $4 for legacy.    Stop the inflation.     Millions of IPS exist,
there is no shortage and don't lie for rirs with IPS left.



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