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Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
From: Pete Carah <pete () altadena net>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:21:12 -0500
On 07/18/2014 10:43 PM, Ca By wrote:
On Jul 18, 2014 5:55 PM, "Jay Ashworth" <jra () baylink com> wrote:----- Original Message -----From: "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com> My cells all operate as a single cohesive system with an actual central control (one brain).Nope; not really. Look up autonomic nervious system; your body makes *wide* use of distributed processing.Yes.Human bodies which do not have that property suffer badly from it.All of them, then, I guess.This is why most of us cannot stop cancer by willing the cells to stop dividing.
Also look at the immune "system"; there is no central control at all, and precious little central "advice" (pituitary and adrenal, and a few others). (yes, some disciplines related to meditation can affect the adrenal part of that somewhat...) Most of the immune system is cells at war with each other, and only kept in check with a major many-way balancing act (and you thought BGP was complicated!!). (and there are *plenty* of diseases that are expressions of imbalances of that war, or (mostly external) agents that induce what amounts to a DDOS.)) (even the itch from a mosquito bite, or poison ivy fall in that category; at least they are normally self-limiting.) (and some of these DDOS-like things can be fatal like type-1 diabetes used to be (and external insulin is just a crutch, not a cure) (lupus and MS also, both currently not particularly treatable; there are many others). To get back to the Verizon thing, they are not attacking netflix as such, the attacks are downstream on that path and the restrictions on level3 (among others) affect my getting to my own colo servers from fios, for example. (added 30msec and 5-10% packet loss to the path delay regularly at 8am every day and until last week this lasted till mid-evening (smokeping can be very enlightening)). Things got better late last week; hope it will last. Call it collateral damage, but it is Verizon doing it very much on purpose. And at least level3 finally called them on it; hope that ends up with some positive effect in the long run. -- Pete
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- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Owen DeLong (Jul 18)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 19)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Michael Conlen (Jul 21)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Paul S. (Jul 21)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Matt Palmer (Jul 21)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Matthew Petach (Jul 21)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix William Herrin (Jul 18)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Owen DeLong (Jul 18)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Jay Ashworth (Jul 18)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Ca By (Jul 18)
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