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Re: Anyone from AS7160 (Oracle) around ? How about Inernap and Voxel ?


From: Mike Tancsa <mike () sentex net>
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 15:28:18 -0400

Thanks to an unnamed frontline staff member who worked hard to find the right people at Oracle, I found the right people at Oracle-- She had no idea what I was talking about, but knew how to figure out how to find who I needed and didnt give up!

It seems Oracle is being sent bogus routing information from their PNAP peer. They are learning, what seems to be a random subnet of prefixes (two of which I am not even announcing-- 64.7.135.0/24 and 64.7.137.0/24) that are learned from Torix. The path that 7160 sees is

19024 29791 8001 11670 11647

They see the following prefixes leaking out of Torix. But if they do a traceroute, the packets just bounce around between Voxel and PNAP. Traceroute below. I have emailed the listed POCs, but no response. Anyone here from those 2 networks ?

64.7.128.0/24      *[BGP/170] 1w4d 11:08:57, localpref 100
                      AS path: 19024 29791 8001 11670 11647 I
                    > to 74.217.8.105 via xe-2/2/0.0
64.7.135.0/24      *[BGP/170] 1w4d 12:03:19, localpref 100
                      AS path: 19024 29791 8001 11670 11647 I
                    > to 74.217.8.105 via xe-2/2/0.0
64.7.137.0/24      *[BGP/170] 1w4d 13:52:08, localpref 100
                      AS path: 19024 29791 8001 11670 11647 I
                    > to 74.217.8.105 via xe-2/2/0.0
198.235.180.0/24   *[BGP/170] 1w4d 06:07:16, localpref 100
                      AS path: 19024 29791 8001 11670 11647 I
                    > to 74.217.8.105 via xe-2/2/0.0
198.235.181.0/24   *[BGP/170] 1w3d 06:53:31, localpref 100
                      AS path: 19024 29791 8001 11670 11647 I
                    > to 74.217.8.105 via xe-2/2/0.0
198.235.183.0/24   *[BGP/170] 1w4d 02:44:55, localpref 100
                      AS path: 19024 29791 8001 11670 11647 I
                    > to 74.217.8.105 via xe-2/2/0.0
204.138.108.0/24    [BGP/170] 1w4d 05:18:36, localpref 100
                      AS path: 19024 29791 8001 11670 11647 I
                    > to 74.217.8.105 via xe-2/2/0.0
205.211.165.0/24   *[BGP/170] 1w4d 08:04:32, localpref 100
                      AS path: 19024 29791 8001 11670 11647 I
                    > to 74.217.8.105 via xe-2/2/0.0


traceroute to 64.7.135.1 (64.7.135.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  74.217.8.105 (74.217.8.105)  0.642 ms  0.514 ms  0.503 ms
 2  64.94.32.14 (64.94.32.14)  1.479 ms  1.564 ms  1.503 ms
 3  208.122.29.21 (208.122.29.21)  11.579 ms  1.428 ms  1.388 ms
4 66.151.28.149 (66.151.28.149) 1.773 ms 66.151.28.141 (66.151.28.141) 1.580 ms 1.524 ms
 5  64.94.32.14 (64.94.32.14)  1.448 ms  1.554 ms  1.558 ms
 6  208.122.29.21 (208.122.29.21)  10.274 ms  1.245 ms  1.232 ms
 7  66.151.28.149 (66.151.28.149)  1.831 ms  1.800 ms  1.785 ms
8 64.94.32.78 (64.94.32.78) 2.027 ms 64.94.32.14 (64.94.32.14) 1.519 ms 1.605 ms
 9  208.122.29.21 (208.122.29.21)  8.869 ms  1.291 ms  1.269 ms
10  66.151.28.149 (66.151.28.149)  1.872 ms  3.619 ms  1.869 ms
11  64.94.32.78 (64.94.32.78)  2.080 ms  1.956 ms  3.242 ms
12  208.122.29.21 (208.122.29.21)  6.033 ms  1.332 ms  1.302 ms
13  66.151.28.141 (66.151.28.141)  1.818 ms  2.006 ms  1.882 ms
14  64.94.32.14 (64.94.32.14)  1.699 ms  1.670 ms  1.615 ms
15  208.122.29.21 (208.122.29.21)  9.590 ms  1.566 ms  1.540 ms
16  66.151.28.149 (66.151.28.149)  1.891 ms  1.978 ms  1.869 ms
17 64.94.32.78 (64.94.32.78) 2.139 ms 64.94.32.14 (64.94.32.14) 1.726 ms 1.741 ms
18  208.122.29.21 (208.122.29.21)  8.236 ms  1.416 ms  1.403 ms
19  66.151.28.149 (66.151.28.149)  2.251 ms  1.987 ms  1.968 ms
20 64.94.32.78 (64.94.32.78) 2.154 ms 64.94.32.14 (64.94.32.14) 1.818 ms 1.754 ms
21  208.122.29.21 (208.122.29.21)  7.431 ms  1.684 ms  1.434 ms
22  66.151.28.141 (66.151.28.141)  1.758 ms  1.764 ms  2.006 ms
23 64.94.32.14 (64.94.32.14) 1.798 ms 1.691 ms 64.94.32.78 (64.94.32.78) 2.201 ms
24  208.122.29.21 (208.122.29.21)  8.134 ms  1.469 ms  1.485 ms
25 66.151.28.141 (66.151.28.141) 10.774 ms 1.885 ms 66.151.28.149 (66.151.28.149) 1.794 ms 26 64.94.32.14 (64.94.32.14) 1.720 ms 64.94.32.78 (64.94.32.78) 3.555 ms 64.94.32.14 (64.94.32.14) 1.831 ms
27  208.122.29.21 (208.122.29.21)  1.762 ms  1.696 ms  1.714 ms
28 66.151.28.149 (66.151.28.149) 2.074 ms 66.151.28.141 (66.151.28.141) 2.286 ms 1.919 ms 29 64.94.32.78 (64.94.32.78) 3.616 ms 2.337 ms 64.94.32.14 (64.94.32.14) 1.911 ms
30  208.122.29.21 (208.122.29.21)  1.737 ms  1.528 ms  1.554 ms

        ---Mike

On 7/8/2014 9:15 AM, Mike Tancsa wrote:
Hi,
     I have been trying to get a hold of someone who looks after ASN
7160 since last Thursday both directly (OrgTechEmail), and indirectly
via upstreams with no luck.  I am trying to resolve or at least
understand a routing reachability issue between our two networks. It
seems packets from ASN7160 are not able to get back to some of my
netblocks in AS 11647.
e.g.

eg. this is fine
% traceroute -q1 -s 98.159.240.105 -Picmp 68.233.77.173
traceroute to 68.233.77.173 (68.233.77.173) from 98.159.240.105, 64 hops
max, 72 byte packets
  1  cogent-vl38-tor-hespler-v38 (205.211.165.117)  0.091 ms
  2  gi1-18.mag02.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.158.77)  0.701 ms
  3  te0-7-0-12.ccr22.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.165)  0.765 ms
  4  be2080.ccr42.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.42.5)  15.871 ms
  5  be2003.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.29.22)  17.882 ms
  6  38.104.102.102 (38.104.102.102)  17.395 ms
  7  border2.te7-1-bbnet1.chg004.pnap.net (64.94.32.19)  16.335 ms
  8  oraclebol-7.border2.chg004.pnap.net (74.217.8.106)  16.945 ms
  9  VIP-CH-77-173.taleo.net (68.233.77.173)  17.014 ms

This is not
% traceroute -q1 -s 205.211.165.119 -Picmp 68.233.77.173
traceroute to 68.233.77.173 (68.233.77.173) from 205.211.165.119, 64
hops max, 72 byte packets
  1  cogent-vl38-tor-hespler-v38 (205.211.165.117)  0.145 ms
  2  gi1-18.mag02.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.158.77)  7.926 ms
  3  te0-7-0-12.ccr22.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.165)  1.081 ms
  4  be2080.ccr42.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.42.5)  15.699 ms
  5  be2003.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.29.22)  15.394 ms
  6  *
  7  *
  8  *

Same with 64.7.137.0/24 and 64.7.135.0/24 for some reason, but not all
subnets within 64.7.128.0/19 are blocked.

% traceroute -q1 -s 64.7.135.1 -Picmp 68.233.77.173
traceroute to 68.233.77.173 (68.233.77.173) from 64.7.135.1, 64 hops
max, 60 byte packets
  1  iolite3 (199.212.135.73)  0.234 ms
  2  cogent-vl108 (67.43.129.246)  2.575 ms
  3  gi1-18.mag02.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.158.77)  2.844 ms
  4  te0-7-0-12.ccr21.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.137)  3.460 ms
  5  be2079.ccr41.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.27.181)  17.338 ms
  6  be2005.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.74)  17.962 ms
  7  *
vs
% traceroute -q1 -s 64.7.138.225 -Picmp 68.233.77.173
traceroute to 68.233.77.173 (68.233.77.173) from 64.7.138.225, 64 hops
max, 60 byte packets
  1  iolite3 (199.212.135.73)  0.193 ms
  2  cogent-vl108 (67.43.129.246)  2.210 ms
  3  gi1-18.mag02.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.158.77)  2.469 ms
  4  te0-7-0-12.ccr22.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.165)  3.091 ms
  5  be2080.ccr42.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.42.5)  17.566 ms
  6  be2003.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.29.22)  18.457 ms
  7  38.104.102.102 (38.104.102.102)  17.831 ms
  8  border2.te8-1-bbnet2.chg004.pnap.net (64.94.32.83)  22.324 ms
  9  oraclebol-7.border2.chg004.pnap.net (74.217.8.106)  19.091 ms
10  VIP-CH-77-173.taleo.net (68.233.77.173)  20.318 ms

The issue started around July 3rd some time.  I have tried the listed
contacts

OrgTechHandle: NOC2096-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Network Operation Center
OrgTechPhone:  +1-877-524-5665
OrgTechEmail:  network-contact_ww () oracle com
OrgTechRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC2096-ARIN

with no luck since last Thursday.  The toll free people were trying
their best to understand who within Oracle I was trying to reach, but
its not part of their normal decision tree.

via TATA and abovenet gives similar results.

  traceroute -q1 -Picmp -s 205.211.165.121 68.233.77.173
traceroute to 68.233.77.173 (68.233.77.173) from 205.211.165.121, 64
hops max, 72 byte packets
  1  ix-11-2-3-0.tcore1.TNK-Toronto.as6453.net (209.58.16.21)  0.170 ms
  2  if-5-0-0-5.core4.TNK-Toronto.as6453.net (63.243.172.25)  30.856 ms
  3  if-0-3-2-0.tcore1.CT8-Chicago.as6453.net (63.243.172.34)  14.203 ms
  4  63.243.129.14 (63.243.129.14)  13.967 ms
  5  ae4.cr1.ord2.us.above.net (64.125.28.49)  12.203 ms
  6  ae9.mpr1.ord11.us.above.net (64.125.24.106)  13.043 ms
  7  ae4.mpr1.ord5.us.above.net (64.125.24.94)  15.027 ms
  8  *
  traceroute -q1 -Picmp -s 67.43.129.244 68.233.77.173
traceroute to 68.233.77.173 (68.233.77.173) from 67.43.129.244, 64 hops
max, 72 byte packets
  1  ix-11-2-3-0.tcore1.TNK-Toronto.as6453.net (209.58.16.21)  29.514 ms
  2  if-11-0-0-4.core4.TNK-Toronto.as6453.net (64.86.33.42)  0.376 ms
  3  if-2-3-2-0.tcore1.CT8-Chicago.as6453.net (63.243.172.42)  12.124 ms
  4  63.243.129.14 (63.243.129.14)  13.624 ms
  5  ae4.cr1.ord2.us.above.net (64.125.28.49)  12.607 ms
  6  ae9.mpr1.ord11.us.above.net (64.125.24.106)  14.290 ms
  7  ae4.mpr1.ord5.us.above.net (64.125.24.94)  13.500 ms
  8  208.185.21.162 (208.185.21.162)  13.476 ms
  9  VIP-CH-77-173.taleo.net (68.233.77.173)  13.778 ms



     ---Mike



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