Re: Inevitable death, was Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix

[Paul WALL <pauldotwall () gmail com>]

It's not as if Brett is doing the public a service. There is Charter
Cable and CenturyLink DSL available in Laramie. He's just a wireless
provider with some crappy infrastructure that's bitter that he can't
"borrow" bandwidth from the University of Wyoming anymore, resulting
in a loss of his 100% margin on the service.

You're not a charity that's providing internet access to the poor
ignored rural folks like you claim, you're a competitive overbuilder.
You give the little boys who are deploying service where the big guys
won't a bad name.

Drive slow,
Paul

On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:20 AM, George Herbert
<george.herbert () gmail com> wrote:
> > On Jul 17, 2014, at 5:19 AM, Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net> wrote:
> >
> > The problem is partly a technological one.  If you have a fiber span from east<-> west it doesn't make sense to OEO 
> > when you can just plop in a bidi amplifier.
>
> Almost certainly, most of the fiber going through the building just hits an amplifier (or nothing and isn't broken 
> out there).  Yes.
>
> But they quoted a price for access, and some research turned up signs other people are doing big fiber out of that 
> location, so my assumption at this point is that at least one pair each direction down the fiber is terminating in 
> some router there.  Possibly a fiber level wave device but seems more likely a router.
>
> Unless that assumption is not true, this comes down to "We don't want your antenna on our roof*, come in via fiber 
> like everyone else" and not having met the right Layer 3 reseller yet.  It's not sounding at all like "we have to 
> break open a fiber for you and put in a router".
>
> (The rest of this indirectly aimed back at Brett, not Jared )
>
> It's not 1995.  Even little ISPs need to get aware and step their game up.  Treating transit or uplink like a 1995 
> problem IS a short road to damnation now.
>
> Seriously.  The net is changing. The customers are changing, the customers uses and expectations are changing.  
> Change with it, or step out of the way.  You are not an exception because you're rural. You've just got a density and 
> size lag.  That is temporary at best.  Keep up.  This is critical national telecommunications infrastructure.  Modern 
> teens have mostly never used landline phones and are not OK with inadequate bandwidth at home or on the road.
>
> Being in Laramie is not a shield against change.
>
>
> * probably expands to "...you aren't big enough for me to bother working with my facility staff and filling out the 
> paperwork to get an exception or lease amendment or permit and let you put an antenna on our roof, sorry", but this 
> is an educated guess not informed.
>
>
> George William Herbert
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