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Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix


From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 17:23:17 +1000


In message <alpine.DEB.2.02.1407140734410.7929 () uplift swm pp se>, Mikael Abraha
msson writes:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Brett Glass wrote:

My customers do not want me to "creatively" find ways to extract 
additional money from them so as to cover expenses that Netflix should 
be covering. Nor do they want me to subsidize Netflix subscribers from 
the fees from non-Netflix subscribers. They want to pay a fair price for 
their Internet that does not include paying ransom to third parties.

The Netflix users either have to pay to you, or they have to pay to 
Netflix. Now, if you're paying $20 per megabit/s/month then you and your 
users are victims of lack of competition in your area.

In properly developed places in the world with working competition, 
bandwidth prices are around $0.5-5/megabit/s/month. With those levels, you 
would have much less problem covering the cost of transit and your 
customers could use the service as much as they want because on margin, 
producing more bandwidth doesn't cost too much. At $20, I can understand 
that you're hurting. However, you paying $20 isn't Netflix problem. I 
don't see how Netflix could be re-imbursing you for your bandwidth costs, 
because it's not their fault either.

So, the real problem you should spend your energy on is why are you paying 
so much for bandwidth, not going after Netflix.

Since this is probably not something you can fix short term, I see no 
other option than to externalise your high margin cost to customers by 
imposing a monthly cap on usage and charging more for the people using the 
service more. You need to make sure your reveue model matches your 
expenditure model.

And in some parts of the world bandwidth caps are the norm even for
terrestial lines.  My DOCIS home line has a 120G (down + up on this
plan) limit then it is rate limited for the rest of the month.  I
don't hit the 120G limit though I regularly go over 60G.  If I need
more bandwidth I would go up to the next tier.  This gives me a
fixed price as well as well defined service expectations.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike () swm pp se
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: marka () isc org


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