Re: Comcast/Level3 issues

[Paul WALL <pauldotwall () gmail com>]

Kevin,

Thank you for the info.  Can you say how many quarters or years until
Comcast is resolved?

I've seen references to that obscure whitepaper (co-authored,
ironically, by Patrick Gilmore) before on the broadbandreports forums,
by someone with a lot of knowledge on Comcast's network and internal
politics/peering discussions.  Do you know who the poster is?

https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=28619103+dslreports+site:www.dslreports.com&biw=1000&bih=1000

Drive Slow,
Paul WALL

On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:17 PM, McElearney, Kevin
<Kevin_McElearney () cable comcast com> wrote:
> FWIW, we work with each issue and try to fix them as best we can.  Several
> are underway.  Much of the ³traffic shifting² is happening external to
> Comcast with very large traffic swings congesting AND uncongesting paths.
> The beauty of adaptive routing via CDN and text book ³Creating Incentives
> to Peer² - feel free to google that...
>
>         - Kevin
>
> On 1/5/14, 1:22 AM, "Paul WALL" <pauldotwall () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > The people pushing this policy are not without a face and name.  They read
> > this mailing list, and attend our conferences.  You'll want to talk to
> > John
> > Schanz, Kevin McElearney, and Barry Tishgart.
> >
> > Drive Slow (like a Comcast peering port),
> > Paul Wall
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Scott Berkman <scott () sberkman net> wrote:
> >
> > > Comcast having saturated links to other providers is a common and
> > > frequently discussed issue.  Here is one previous NANOG thread on the
> > > topic:
> > >
> > > http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2010-December/029251.html
> > >
> > > And a related article:
> > > http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Claims-Resurface-
> > > Concerning-Congested-Comcast-TATA-Links-111818
> > >
> > > There are debates back and forth on the validity of the graphs from the
> > > NANOG post, but it is a fact that at that time Comcast was heavily
> > > pre-pending their Level BGP advertisements to force traffic over to
> > > Tata,
> > > and many many people noticed congestion at those links in a variety of
> > > markets.
> > >
> > > I wish you luck, but my personal opinion is that your fastest resolution
> > > would be to move to another provider.  Comcast is a residential ISP that
> > > lives on extreme over-subscription and not actually being able to
> > > deliver
> > > what customers believe they have. You'll notice a lot of recent news
> > > about
> > > increased and more strict data caps for their subscribers, and that is
> > > the
> > > only thing they will likely be doing to relieve these types of recurring
> > > issues.
> > >
> > >   -Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 01/02/2014 11:18 PM, R W wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm seeing the same as well. Can anyone from Comcast/Level(3) reach out
> > > > to me or provide comment. We're seeing heavy jitter and some packet
> > > > loss
> > > > most noticeable in NYC area connections between Level(3) and Comcast.
> > > > -Rob
> > > >
> > > >  Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:45:00 -0800
> > > > > Subject: Comcast/Level3 issues
> > > > > From: dwheet () gmail com
> > > > > To: nanog () nanog org
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking for a networking contact at comcast and/or level3.  I've been
> > > > > having some slow speed issues with hitting some sites that's going
> > > > > through
> > > > > level3 and I think there might be some congestion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug