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Re: Do network diagnostic tools need upgrade?
From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:15:02 -0500
On Feb 3, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Octavio Alvarez <alvarezp () alvarezp ods org> wrote:
On 02/03/2014 05:33 AM, Ammar Salih wrote:Hello NANOG list members, I have a question for you, are you happy with the current network diagnostic tools, like ping, trace route .. etc,What tools are you referring to by "..."? There are many others. I like tcptraceroute (there are two variants of it) and mtr.
There are lesser known options that are used by folks, eg: ping record-route. One could certainly use those available tools, but most folks have a hard enough time interpreting traceroute output. I've seen customers complain about performance to have us show them it's on their network, or their firewall modules, etc.. Having statistics on network usage/errors/drops is incredible useful in isolating the performance limitations. Knowing that a firewall maxes at 350Mb/s is as equally useful as having protocol extensions to collect the data. One of my early experiences with a sysadmin who only cared about the application/OS was "the router is a black box that gets my packets there". Knowing the behavior beyond there is also important (how latency/loss impacts tcp/udp/application performance for example). Most importantly, keeping an open mind when troubleshooting is helpful. Sometimes you find something unexpected. (eg: uRPF drops when responding IP is mapped-v4-in-v6 from within 6PE network). - Jared
Current thread:
- Do network diagnostic tools need upgrade? Ammar Salih (Feb 03)
- Re: Do network diagnostic tools need upgrade? Andre Gironda (Feb 03)
- Re: Do network diagnostic tools need upgrade? Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 03)
- Re: Do network diagnostic tools need upgrade? Octavio Alvarez (Feb 03)
- Re: Do network diagnostic tools need upgrade? Jared Mauch (Feb 03)
- Re: Do network diagnostic tools need upgrade? Bryan Socha (Feb 03)
- Re: Do network diagnostic tools need upgrade? Jared Mauch (Feb 03)