Re: comcast business service

[shawn wilson <ag4ve.us () gmail com>]

Works:

Downstream Channel
Downstream Frequency525000000 Hz561000000 Hz567000000 Hz573000000 Hz579000000 Hz
Lock StatusLockedLockedLockedLockedLocked
Modulation256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM
Symbol Rate5.360537 Msym/sec5.360537 Msym/sec5.360537 Msym/sec5.360537
Msym/sec5.360537 Msym/sec
Downstream Power 2.2 dBmV 3.8 dBmV 3.0 dBmV 2.9 dBmV 2.9 dBmV
SNR41.2 dBmV40.8 dBmV40.5 dBmV40.9 dBmV41.0 dBmV
Upstream Channel
Upstream Frequency36000000 Hz29400000 Hz22800000 Hz0 Hz
Lock StatusLockedLockedLockedNot Locked
ModulationATDMAATDMAATDMAUnknown
Symbol Rate5120 sym/sec5120 sym/sec5120 sym/sec0 sym/sec
Upstream Power46.2 dBmV46.2 dBmV46.2 dBmV0 dBmV

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9013ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 23.066/27.049/35.627/4.825 ms

Not working:

Downstream Channel
Downstream Frequency525000000 Hz561000000 Hz567000000 Hz573000000 Hz579000000 Hz
Lock StatusLockedLockedLockedLockedLocked
Modulation256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM
Symbol Rate5.360537 Msym/sec5.360537 Msym/sec5.360537 Msym/sec5.360537
Msym/sec5.360537 Msym/sec
Downstream Power 2.2 dBmV 3.8 dBmV 2.9 dBmV 2.8 dBmV 2.9 dBmV
SNR41.4 dBmV40.8 dBmV40.4 dBmV41.0 dBmV41.3 dBmV
Upstream Channel
Upstream Frequency36000000 Hz29400000 Hz22800000 Hz0 Hz
Lock StatusLockedLockedLockedNot Locked
ModulationATDMAATDMAATDMAUnknown
Symbol Rate5120 sym/sec5120 sym/sec5120 sym/sec0 sym/sec
Upstream Power46.5 dBmV46.5 dBmV46.5 dBmV0 dBmV

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
233 packets transmitted, 232 received, 0% packet loss, time 232884ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 23.431/1918.702/8758.161/2017.033 ms, pipe 9

I'm not seeing any big difference in SNR (and only slight differences
in upstream power) and everything else seems to be the same. Though,
since db is logarithmic, .3 might be enough to matter?

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Dan Shoop <shoop () iwiring net> wrote:
> On Feb 20, 2014, at 4:08 AM, shawn wilson <ag4ve.us () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > A while ago I got Comcast's business service. Semi-idle connections
> > are get dropped (I haven't really diagnosed this - I just no that it
> > isn't the client or server but some network in between). However the
> > second and most obvious issue is that intermittently, the service will
> > grind to a halt:
> > --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
> > 37 packets transmitted, 34 received, 8% packet loss, time 36263ms
> > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 398.821/5989.160/14407.055/3808.068 ms, pipe 15
> >
> > After a modem reboot, it goes normal:
> > --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
> > 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3003ms
> > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 23.181/23.920/24.298/0.474 ms
> >
> > This seems to happen about once or twice a day. I can't attribute it
> > to any type of traffic or number of connections. All of the rest of
> > the network equipment is the same and the behavior persists when a
> > computer is plugged directly into the modem. I called Comcast and they
> > said they didn't see anything even when I was experiencing ridiculous
> > ping times. I tend to think it's an issue with the 'modem' but I'm not
> > sure what the issue might be or how to reproduce it when asked to if I
> > tell them to look at it.
>
> I’ve seen this happen before with various cable ISPs. I’d concur with the poster suggesting intermittent noise on the 
> cable segment as a likely culprit. Also if you have a cable modem that binds multiple channels for higher bandwidth 
> this can also be problematic, especially with the noise. Signals will look good to the NOC but it’s not the signal 
> “level" that’s the issue it’s the signal to noise level. Noise has to be measured locally and techs don’t always 
> check SNL.
>
> Also check to see if the packets aren’t actually being dropped but just taking longer than ping is looking for. Also 
> check for out of sequence packets returned. These can indicate flapping of a bonded circuit or the bonded circuit 
> experiencing noise. Try seeing if you disconnect everything and get a straight run to the demarc, with a know and 
> tested out good cable, if the problem doesn’t ever occur. This could indicate noise on the cable in your premise. But 
> I’ve experienced this same problem with noise coming through the demarc. I’ve also seen levels too hot beyond the 
> demarc causing similar problems too.
>
> HTH.
>
>
> -d
>
> -----
>
> Dan Shoop
> shoop () iwiring net
> 1-646-402-5293 (GoogleVoice)