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Re: Best US Tunnelbroker for Youtube


From: Ryan Shea <ryanshea () google com>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:28:28 -0400

I was attempting to determine the lowest-time-cost path to "happy wife". My
candidate paths are "kill v6", "sixxs", "routinghouse" and I was looking
for anecdotes that might lead me to test one over another.

Yes there are better operational approaches if I ditch the "happy wife" &&
low-cost (time) concerns, but it certainly seems that the problem of
reliable high-quality video streams is more complex than a
traceroute/tcpdump are going to indicate. Where is the wireshark button my
Chromecast? What is the PoP I am using for this particular video versus
another? Is this request filled from Google Global Cache or not? I am
choosing not to tilt at these particular windmills.

There are not Amazon reviews for tunnel brokers, so yes, I come to an
operator mailing list.


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jeroen Massar <jeroen () massar ch> wrote:

On 2014-08-20 16:55, Ryan Shea wrote:
Just one man's experience, but my YouTube performance over my Hurricane
Electric tunnel has been strikingly poor lately

Instead of saying that something is "poor", you might want to do the
operational/technical[1] thing and include things like:
 - IPv4 traceroute from your endpoint to the PoP you are using
 - IPv6 traceroute over the tunnel to the destination that is "poor"

And depending on things tcpdump/wireshark might be an amazing tool too.

There are apparently some US ISPs who are throttling protocol-41 btw,
which might actually be what your problem is.

Only data will tell though.

I am fairly sure that bringing problems with HE up to them directly or
at least on their forums instead of a mailinglist for Network
Operators[1] will get you better results...

- so much so that I was
thinking of squashing v6 in my house entirely. Looking for your
experiences/thoughts on whether cutting over to SixXS or Routinghouse
could
be a path to 1080p cat video bliss instead.

For SixXS it all depends on which ISP network you are located in and
what PoP you select. If you are west-coast, at the moment, you will
likely not get the best performance as there are no PoPs in that area
and thus you would have to cut through the country.


But more importantly: did you consider asking your ISP for native IPv6?

Greets,
 Jeroen


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