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Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post


From: "Bob Evans" <bob () FiberInternetCenter com>
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:26:30 -0700

Everyone interested in how this plays out today, can read Bill Norton's
Internet Peering book.  While some say situations "didn't happen this way
or it happened that way" doesn't really matter. What is clear and matters
is the tactics/leverage backbones and networks use against each other in
trading traffic are very real and explained well.

These situations are one of the reasons I helped Coresite (AKA old
CRGwest) build Any2 Peering.

Amazon now has a kindle edition of the latest for just $10. Paper version
is like $50-$100.
The 2014 Internet Peering Playbook: Connecting to the Core of the Internet
[Kindle Edition]
William B. Norton (Author).

 Bob Evans
 CTO
 Fiber Internet Center
 Fiber International
 MTI Corporation


The "Fast Lane" perhaps starts as not counting traffic against metered
byte caps, similar to what ATT did on their mobile network.  If the
content/service provider is willing to pay the provider, then the users
may not pay overage fees or get nasty letters anymore when they exceed
data caps.  The second and more contentious part of it is using QoS to
guarantee the content/service provider's traffic is delivered, at the
expense of traffic from those who aren't paying.  So if Netflix decides to
pay and Amazon Prime doesn't, well Netflix will make it to your house and
Prime might not.  Right now everyone's traffic gets dropped equally. :)
(Well more Netflix because there is a lot more of it).


-Phil (all opinions are my personal opinions)




On 4/27/14, 1:44 PM, "Barry Shein" <bzs () world std com> wrote:


What are any of you talking about? Have you even bothered to read for
example the wikipedia article on "monopoly" or are you so solipsistic
that you just make up the entire universe in your head? Do you also
pontificate on quantum physics and neurosurgery when the urge strikes
you???

Sorry but this discussion is so, uneducated, usage of terms which are
not as they are defined in the English or any other language, etc.

<BOLD>

But what do you think about the FCC's efforts in regard to "net
neutrality"?

</BOLD>

Do you agree with CNBC's assessment that the internet has a "fast
lane" and up until now FCC regulations prevented consumers and content
providers from using it under the guise of "net neutrality".

Do you believe there's anything at stake here for you beyond just
nattering about your own personal and peculiar notion of what a
"monopoly" is? Does that really matter to any of this?

I almost believe that this entire flame war on the definition of
monopoly is being fanned by sockpuppets whose job it is to make sure
no one here talks about net neutrality in any effective or at least
meaningful way.

 http://www.cnbc.com/id/101607254

 F.C.C., in 'Net Neutrality' Turnaround,
 Plans to Allow Fast Lane

 The Federal Communications Commission will propose new rules that
 allow Internet service providers to offer a faster lane through
 which to send video and other content to consumers, as long as a
 content company is willing to pay for it, according to people
 briefed on the proposals.

 ...

Would someone please define this "fast lane" for me? That would be a
really good start. Preferably the managers of that fast lane because
they surely must be on this list...no?


P.S. CNBC is owned by Comcast (or more specifically NBC Universal,
which is owned by Comcast.)

--
       -Barry Shein

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