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Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back
From: Sam Moats <sam () circlenet us>
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 06:18:27 -0400
I believe you are correct, whatever technical hurdles we put in place will be overcome by policy. As long as you can legally require me to make my network intercept able for "lawful" purposes and are able to prevent me from explaining these purposes to my users any security that I would put in place is effectively neutered.
I give up trying to resist, I am now firmly in the tin foil hat club. Sam On 2013-09-06 05:57, Roland Dobbins wrote:
Eugen Leitl <eugen () leitl org> wrote:We engineers built the Internet – and now we have to fix itNonsense. This is not a technical issue, it's a socio-political issue. It’s both naive & distracting to try & solve this set of problems with code and/or silicon, when it must in fact be addressed within the civic arena. There are no purely technical solutions to social ills. Schneier of all people should know this. --------------------------------------- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins () arbor net>
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- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back Randy Bush (Sep 06)
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- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back Larry Sheldon (Sep 06)
- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back Randy Bush (Sep 06)
- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back Roland Dobbins (Sep 06)
- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back Sam Moats (Sep 06)
- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back John S. Quarterman (Sep 06)
- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back Sam Moats (Sep 06)
- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back John S. Quarterman (Sep 06)
- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back Sholes, Joshua (Sep 06)
- RE: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back Alex Rubenstein (Sep 06)
- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back John Peach (Sep 06)
- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back Jorge Amodio (Sep 06)
- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back Ishmael Rufus (Sep 06)
- Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back Sam Moats (Sep 06)