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Re: Radware vs Arbor


From: "dennis" <dennis () justipit com>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:34:44 -0400

Surely both vendors have gear in many of the Tier1 carriers whether it be for layered security or dual vendor approach. When it comes down to deciding between the two you need to consider the deployment models and techniques in use. These two vendors strong points are in two separate areas. Arbor Peakflow is a very good traffic analysis tool which leverages netflow from your existing routers for probes providing good l3-l4 volumetric flood detection. Once a pps/bw anomaly is detected you can decide whether to reroute traffic into a scrubbing device (TMS/Radware, etc). Arbor common deployment is OOP netflow collection with redirection to scrubbing center. On the other hand Radware is a full packet inspection and mitigation (Layers 3-7) appliance. Radware is a transparent device with it's most common deployments inline, scrubbing center and out of path TAP modes.



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From: "Beavis" <pfunix () gmail com>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:57 PM
To: "Tempest" <tempestterror () gmail com>
Cc: <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: Radware vs Arbor

For a DDoS solution; my experience leans on arbor's peakflow and their
partnership with other upstream carrier's (Level3, Peer1, etc.) which makes
sense since most of the attacks are distributed having recon work done by
an organization like arbor makes you only worry about the attack types that
come into your network and not much the top part complexities of it.

I am in no relationship with arbor or any of it's employees. this is solely
based on my knowledge of the product.


regards,
-Beavis


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Tempest <tempestterror () gmail com> wrote:

Doing a bunch of research, and I can't find a meaningful comparison of
these two products. Work for a carrier, and I am looking at implementing a
DDoS mitigation service that we can sell to our customers.  Radware is
cheaper, but I am seeing a lot of noise in various forums that makes me
question their viability for what we need.  Arbor has most of the market,
and I assume there is good reason for it.  Both companies seem to be very
deceptive about how they compare to the other. Anyone out there with good hands on experience that can compare? Not interested in input from either company, we get plenty of that already. Good experience, or links to good
write ups would be excellent...

Davis B.




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