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Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty
From: jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 18:19:34 -0300
Paul, I agree this is a problem, but its been a problem since at least 1994 ( my first exposure ) and I suspect longer, the issue is east we capacity in Canada is very $$, pushing traffic from Toronto east to points south to get it to Vancouver is much more cost effective. -jim On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () mykolab com>wrote:
A Canadian ISP colleague of mine suggested that the NANOG constituency might be interested in this, given some recent 'revelations', so I forward it here for you perusal. "Preliminary analysis of more than 25,000 traceroutes reveals a phenomenon we call ‘boomerang routing’ whereby Canadian-to-Canadian internet transmissions are routinely routed through the United States. Canadian originated transmissions that travel to a Canadian destination via a U.S. switching centre or carrier are subject to U.S. law - including the USA Patriot Act and FISAA. As a result, these transmissions expose Canadians to potential U.S. surveillance activities – a violation of Canadian network sovereignty." http://lawprofessors.typepad.**com/media_law_prof_blog/2013/** 09/routing-internet-**transmission-across-the-**canada-us-border-and-us-** surveillance-activities.html<http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/media_law_prof_blog/2013/09/routing-internet-transmission-across-the-canada-us-border-and-us-surveillance-activities.html> Cheers, - ferg -- Paul Ferguson Vice President, Threat Intelligence Internet Identity, Tacoma, Washington USA IID --> "Connect and Collaborate" --> www.internetidentity.com
Current thread:
- Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Paul Ferguson (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Aaron Wendel (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Jorge Amodio (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Jim Popovitch (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty jim deleskie (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Wayne E Bouchard (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Harald Koch (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Dave Crocker (Sep 09)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Dobbins, Roland (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Dobbins, Roland (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty <<"tei''>>> (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Randy Bush (Sep 08)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Dobbins, Roland (Sep 08)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty bmanning (Sep 08)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Michael Thomas (Sep 08)
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- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Aaron Wendel (Sep 07)