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Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic
From: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 19:18:59 -0700
So even if Goog or Yahoo encrypt their data between DCs, what stops the NSA from decrypting that data? Or would it be done simply to make their lives a bit more of a PiTA to get the data they want? -Mike
On Nov 1, 2013, at 19:08, Harry Hoffman <hhoffman () ip-solutions net> wrote: That's with a recommendation of using RC4. Head on over to the Wikipedia page for SSL/TLS and then decide if you want rc4 to be your preference when trying to defend against a adversary with the resources of a nation-state. Cheers, Harry Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net> wrote:* mikal () stillhq com (Michael Still) [Fri 01 Nov 2013, 05:27 CET]:Its about the CPU cost of the crypto. I was once told the number of CPUs required to do SSL on web search (which I have now forgotten) and it was a bigger number than you'd expect -- certainly hundreds.False: https://www.imperialviolet.org/2010/06/25/overclocking-ssl.html "On our production frontend machines, SSL/TLS accounts for less than 1% of the CPU load, less than 10KB of memory per connection and less than 2% of network overhead. Many people believe that SSL takes a lot of CPU time and we hope the above numbers (public for the first time) will help to dispel that." -- Niels.
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- Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic Randy Bush (Nov 01)
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- Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic Masataka Ohta (Nov 03)
- Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 03)
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- Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic Masataka Ohta (Nov 05)
- Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 06)
- Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic Masataka Ohta (Nov 06)
- Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic Mike Lyon (Nov 01)
- Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic Lyndon Nerenberg (Nov 01)
- RE: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic John Souvestre (Nov 01)
- Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic Matthew Petach (Nov 02)
- Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic Michael Thomas (Nov 02)
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- Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic Randy Bush (Nov 01)