Re: What hath god wrought?

[Charles Wyble <charles-lists () knownelement com>]

Yes. I'm aware of that. It would be futile in most cases, which is a huge problem in and of itself, as that's really 
the only recourse. 

I mean they were using a shared hosting plan. Not exactly deep pocketed. 

My point is that the abuse of power is blatant and they are unafraid of any kind of retaliation. They don't need to 
hide. 

Mike Hale <eyeronic.design () gmail com> wrote:

> "Sue them?"
> Uhm...yes?  That's why we have courts that we can sue federal agencies
> in.
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Charles Wyble
> <charles-lists () knownelement com> wrote:
> > No proxy needed. No need to hide.
> >
> > While working for a very large hosting company, I once observed DHS
> hammering an occupy related website. No attempt to hide the source ip
> or anything.
> > What are you going to do? Sue them? If they wish to take a site
> offline, they will ddos it or simply seize the domain under the
> national security banner.
> > "<<"tei''>>>" <oscar.vives () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 20 May 2013 01:58, Michael Painter <tvhawaii () shaka com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/ddos-for-hire-service-works-with-blessing-of-fbi-operator-says/
> > > >
> > >
> > > More on the same topic.
> > > http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/05/ragebooter-legit-ddos-service-or-fed-backdoor/#more-19475
> > >
> > > Maybe the FBI use this to commit crimes in USA using a foreign
> company
> > > as proxy so nothing dirty show on the books. That way the FBI can
> > > avoid respecting USA laws.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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